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Old 01-12-2012, 09:14 AM
 
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I feel the same. Like even in porn I'm not grossed out when a man is in the scene, that's just not where my focus is and I'm not attracted to them. On the other hand, gay men tend to act or suggest they are grossed out by female genitalia or turned off by women, as even Rlarson21 has shown a bit of in the past several posts. It makes me wonder how likely it is there is some sort of deeply and intricately manifested mental thing going on with homosexuals in regard to women that prevents that attraction that's normal in heterosexuals and leaves them turning to men as they are incapable of seeing women sexually because of said mental block or whatever it could be.
You're making assumptions based on just what Rlarson said. I'm gay, and not grossed out or offended by the look of women at all. I even find someone women quite stunning (Kate Beckinsale being one of my favorite examples). But I am not romantically, emotionally, or sexually attracted to them the way a straight guy is. Looking at a naked women does not get me aroused. It's not ugly or gross, it's just not appealing to me. Looking at a ripped, hot guy does.

There is no mental block, it's just the way gay vs. straight brains are wired. We look at men, like a straight woman would, because brain structure is similar.

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Homosexualty in women is interesting too. One study I've read about connected devices to the genitalia of both men and women and measured their physical arousal when sat down comfortable and presented various images and videos. They were asked their sexual orientation before hand and were shown regular porn, gay porn, men only, women only, and bonobos (apes). Most men in the study, straight or gay, were by far most physically aroused by the type of porn that is oriented to the sexual orientation they claim and weren't aroused by the others or the bonobos. Curiously, however, the women in the study were almost equally aroused by ALL of the porn, including the bonobos having sex! Could this mean that if sexual orientation is at all a choice that it's more likely possibly a choice for women??? You would almost thing it would be the opposite, that men would be sexually excited by everything and anything. But no, it's women. Edit: To further clarify the study, not only were the participants hooked up to devices that measured their physical arousal, but they were also given devices to CHOOSE how excited they were. The men were mostly honest. The women, even though they were aroused by everything shown to them, were less honest and CHOSE that they were aroused only when shown what they want you to think arouses them. However, the women were all aroused by gay sex even though they said they weren't, lesbians were aroused my men even though they said they weren't, and straight women were aroused by lesbian sex even though they said they weren't.
I've always heard it said for some reason, women have slightly more fluid sexuality than men. Not that they have a choice, but they tend to fall on the bisexual spectrum more, whereas men usually fall closer to the extremes (gay or straight).

 
Old 01-12-2012, 09:18 AM
 
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I notice that people are trying to make it seem like heterosexual people who aren't super-openly-supportive of homosexuality are all mean and closed-minded.
They almost always are, since 99% of anti-gay sentiment is based on literalistic, conservative Bible interpretations and the icky factor.

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Also, why does it seem like some people just can't accept it when a person simply has no feelings about homosexuality? It seems like people are trying to shove it in the world's face or the U.S. society. What if we just don't care and get annoyed when people try to force their sexuality on us and act like we are wrong for not supporting gay-marriage or something?
Because in the very next breath, you're bragging about last night's conquest, or your marriage. But that's fine with you because heterosexuality is common, and therefore doesn't appear to be thrown in people's faces. But when you're on the opposite side, heterosexuality is shoved in our faces far more than homosexuality is shoved in yours.

It's a giant double standard, and one which hurts us, where as it does absolutely nothing to you.
 
Old 01-12-2012, 09:19 AM
 
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In your opinion. My views are shared by many.
Doesn't make them right.
 
Old 01-12-2012, 09:24 AM
 
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Considering the crap that gay people put up with, i have a hard believing they said "you know what, i'm going to try this gay thing for awhile, who cares if I get discriminated against, can't marry in most states, and probably get beat down because I'm gay." Explain to me how being gay is the better option in life if its a choice.
This is why the "it's a choice" argument baffles me. There is absolutely nothing beneficial to being gay except not being able to get your partner pregnant accidently, but there is a ridiculous amount of negatives, depending on where you live, from being fired from a job and denied housing, unable to marry the person you love, all the way to being beaten, tortured, and publicly executed.

Being gay for many, if not most people makes life much much harder. Who on earth would choose to make life harder on themselves if they could choose to be like everyone else and accepted?
 
Old 01-12-2012, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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Default False premise........do you know what that is?

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You know the EXPERIENCERS OF BEING GAY?

it's like historians traveling back in time to meet George WAshington and wondering about his life but just not asking him.

It makes NO SENSE.
....it is not that easy , Buster.....( levity )
IF that's all that is involved in discerning the truth..........ask an addict, a heart attack victim, ask a soldier why he can't stop war, ask a Texan why he doesn't hate Mexicans but why he remembers the Alamo. OK , not clear, let me make this clear, Things are often not as they apear, and answers are rarely discerned by blogging and posting. HOWEVER, if you have a belief you can tuck it away, you can polish it up on special ocasions, you can hire a marching band and have a parade, you can scream and yell and insist your the only one with a good idea to contribute and that's your right, in part due to that HOMO Phobos George Washington. And also thousands ( to many to count) of GAYS who SERVE HONORABLE and proudly in the modern military. What's worse homo sex or murder and hate. We have two choices if it's a desease eventually we can fix it, if its a genetic condition, then some day we can have choice.....For now , it bust be managed by those who don't even Post here.......not my job....good luck to all, have a more happy new year.......it's in the Constitution.
 
Old 01-12-2012, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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Default all you can really say is..........

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I have an uncle who is now gay and his WAS a choice. He was married at one point, had a child etc. Divorced and decided it would be cool to try being gay. So how can you say it is not a choice?
this case worked like this...........like telling how you scored a touchdown..........every day in foot ball season some one comes up with a flipping new way............even that guy who FLIPPED over the goal line.
 
Old 01-12-2012, 01:04 PM
 
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I have an uncle who is now gay and his WAS a choice. He was married at one point, had a child etc. Divorced and decided it would be cool to try being gay. So how can you say it is not a choice?

Unless your uncle had SOME predisposition (some level of bisexuality), he cannot and did not CHANGE his ORIENTATION.

Then again, he could have been trying to be sarcastic, and because you hear what you want to hear, you didn't realize he was making a snide remark.

"I thought it would be cool to try being gay" sounds like a snarky comeback from someone tired of answering why he went from being married to being gay.
 
Old 01-12-2012, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Doesn't make them right.
Doesn't make them wrong, either.
Who's to decide if they are right or wrong?
 
Old 01-12-2012, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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it's not chosen so you can't turn someone straight so showing someone a picture makes no sense. also what do you mean by hope? do you mean that we're lost in a sea of evil or something like that?
Who says it's not chosen? Who knows that for sure?

"Hope" because it's a lot more fun to be attracted to the opposite sex.
 
Old 01-12-2012, 01:57 PM
 
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Doesn't make them wrong, either.
Who's to decide if they are right or wrong?
An objective source, like science and people who actually live the reality?
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