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Originally Posted by alphamale
If you planned on increasing production by20%, you would gear up for it first, right?
Hire /train new people, build new infrastructure, etc.
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Not necessarily. There are instances where you can increase production without hiring additional employees, or machinery/equipment.
The health care economic sector is a different animal, because it generally requires intense training, certification, education or licensing (or two or more of those).
I can advertise for a fork-lift operator and get 3,000 job applications, but if I advertise for an x-ray technician, lab tech, doctor, nurse etc, I'm not going to get a but a few.
Economy of Scaling....
Mircea
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Originally Posted by mlassoff
Ummm... We're not "dumping" 30 million new patients on the medical system. They are already there-- Now they will be insured. The medical system won't change. The insurance system will.
You speak as if 30 million people having better access to a physician-- and their doctor's visits being paid for through the insurance system rather than taxes and public ER's-- is a bad thing.
For someone who claims to understand business so well, your analysis (for lack of a better word) is way, way off.
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Who's paying for that?
It just astounds me that so many can't wrap their brains around the fact that there is nothing that is "free." Everything costs, if not money, then time, space and resources.
What's the point of giving people a FICA payroll tax holiday and then increasing their insurance premiums $40 per month?
We aren't done by a long shot. There are still some 140+ regulations in the Federal Register that HHS has to issue its imperial edicts. And over the course of the next 24 months there will be dozens more imperial edicts that HHS will create and issue.
It's been about 1 year now, and I'm still waiting for one of the Big Brain Liberals to tell me exactly how much Obamacare will cost in 2014.
Funny thing is, none of you can. If you could, then you'd be the Darling of Wall Street. I could get you hooked up on the TV/radio talk-show circuit and the university and business lecture circuit. We'd be rich beyond the wildest dreams of avarice.
Understanding business....
Mircea
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Originally Posted by florida.bob
I believe there is about 4 years of prep time. Increasing the number of Doctors will take more time, and the enrollment in Med Schools is up as well. By the way, why do you think Healthcare is one of the fastest growing job areas?
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It won't be when Medicare collapses in 2018.
Laughing at the superior intellect...
Mircea
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Originally Posted by BentBow
Like Medicare and Medicaid, the doctors will have a choice to accept them or not. Lose money here and charge the paying clients more to make up for it, and the cost of healthcare rises again, and again.
Or refuse to accept them.
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That's the wonderful thing about Liberals and the government-formerly-known-as-the-federal-government.
They just close their eyes and pretend that the cost of a doctor's office visit is the same in every single city in the US. Never mind the reality that it is not.
In some parts of the US, the cost of a doctor's office visit is only $15 to $25 because that is what the cost-of-living, labor market conditions and economic conditions say it should be.
In other parts of the US, the cost is $45 to $60, because that is what the cost-of-living, labor market conditions and economic conditions say it should be.
The government-formerly-known-as-the-federal-government ignores that reality and says a doctor's office visit costs $30 and that is all that Medicare/Medicaid/Obamacare will pay.
So what happens?
The doctors who normally charge $15 to $25 because that is what the market bears raise their rates to $30 and make a nice profit.
And *******s think that is a beautiful warm fuzzy feeling thing. Never mind the waste.
And then doctors in those markets that are forced to charge $45 to $60 have to turn away Medicare/Medicaid/Obamacare patients because they'll lose money.
And *******s think that is a beautiful warm fuzzy feeling thing. Never mind that people aren't being served.
Or worse, doctors in those markets that are forced to charge $45 to $60 might raise the rates of other services to make up for their financial losses. Let's say a blood test costs $25 in that market, and the doctor charges $30 and the government-formerly-known-as-the-federal-government has decreed from On High that it will pay $40, then the doctor will stop charging $30 and start charging $40.
And again, *******s think that is a beautiful warm fuzzy feeling thing. Never mind the waste.
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Originally Posted by BentBow
In the long run, it will put more in the ER's than their short term plan imagined.
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The ERs can turn away people who do not have life-threatening conditions.
Watching health care costs rise....
Mircea
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Originally Posted by jeffrow1
The health care mandate includes people with pre-existing conditions and any number of other people, not just Hispanics and African Americans with bling wheels and 5 babies. Did you know that Alpha?
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I think the issue is that if you can afford to money for a tattoo, or cable/satellite, or internet, or cell-phone, then you can afford a doctor's office visit.
Mandating...
Mircea