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Old 01-07-2012, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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^^^Agreed! If Romney, Santorum or someone would say, "cut the crap guys", this birther nonsense would all but disappear.

Huntsman, to his credit, has said he believes Obama was born in Hawaii. But he's the only one.
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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^^^Agreed! If Romney, Santorum or someone would say, "cut the crap guys", this birther nonsense would all but disappear.

Huntsman, to his credit, has said he believes Obama was born in Hawaii. But he's the only one.

This is why Huntsman is better than Romney. He stands up for reason. Romney is afraid to offend the far right, so he keeps it zipped on this, global warming, evolution,etc. He doesn't believe any of the craziness, but would just as soon keep it to himself. That is not leadership.
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Seems to be a religion with you folks, believe he is legit or else. He's a fraud, and anybody with good sense knows it. Thank God for the people that refuse to give up on upholding the Constitution and pursuit of justice. The GOP has nothing to do with it. Let this one pass, and it sets a precedent that cannot stand.
He fumbled his first swearing in, and said he's take the real one later. Did he? Who knows. We've never had such a bumbling idiot in office. Quit covering for him.
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Texas
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This is why Huntsman is better than Romney. He stands up for reason. Romney is afraid to offend the far right, so he keeps it zipped on this, global warming, evolution,etc. He doesn't believe any of the craziness, but would just as soon keep it to himself. That is not leadership.
Maybe he'll change his tune after winning the nomination.
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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I am so sick of the liberals that hyperventilate at the fear this charade will be exposed and the people find out they have been scammed. That the Constitution has been rendered meaningless by globalists, that believe national sovereignty is so yesterday. It will come to the surface, deal with it.
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:41 PM
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Seems to be a religion with you folks, believe he is legit or else.
Wouldn't that more accurately describe you birther types? Very much like religion - believe Obama is a foreigner despite total lack of evidence to support the claim and despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
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He fumbled his first swearing in, and said he's take the real one later. Did he? Who knows.
People who know:

1) Barack Obama
2) John Roberts
3) Aides who were in the room
4) Whoever took the pictures
5) The reporters in the room

You act like it's this crazy conspiracy in which Barack Obama somehow convinced the chief justice and a bunch of other people to agree to a fake second swearing (two other presidents had to do it over, and a couple others messed it up too)..

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Old 01-07-2012, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Wouldn't that more accurately describe you birther types? Very much like religion - believe Obama is a foreigner despite total lack of evidence to support the claim and despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
That's the problem Jason, the evidence is that he is not a natural born citizen, because his father was Kenyan, period, simple as that. Obama cannot provide any evidence that gets around that. A game has been played by Pelosi and company, and Congress has abdicated their duties, the courts appear to be afraid to even allow the case to be argued. It's a mess. If this is not fixed, and exposed, we are no longer a nation of laws, we are now a nation ruled by the powerful. We are serfs.
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Old 01-08-2012, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I'm rather happy that the birthers and after-birthers are making the Republican party look foolish and full of lunatic fringe. The fact that the mainstream Republicans power brokers have done nothing to try set the record straight shows how little regard they have for the truth.
oh for heaven's sake, it is a small fraction of the Repbulicans and others that are still making an issue of this, we could pick on issues that the extremist on the other side continue to bring up.

Nita
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Old 01-08-2012, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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That's the problem Jason, the evidence is that he is not a natural born citizen, because his father was Kenyan, period, simple as that. Obama cannot provide any evidence that gets around that. A game has been played by Pelosi and company, and Congress has abdicated their duties, the courts appear to be afraid to even allow the case to be argued. It's a mess. If this is not fixed, and exposed, we are no longer a nation of laws, we are now a nation ruled by the powerful. We are serfs.
Obama's father's nationality was known long before 2008. If there had been a problem, he would not have been able to run in the primaries. Heck, it took a senate resolution, which Obama voted for, to make McCain a NBC. If that had been necessary for Obama, the senate could have done so.
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Old 01-08-2012, 08:12 AM
 
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oh for heaven's sake, it is a small fraction of the Repbulicans and others that are still making an issue of this, we could pick on issues that the extremist on the other side continue to bring up.

Nita
Several polls in the past couple years found that between 30 and 40 percent of Republicans believe Obama is foreign-born and not a natural born US citizen. They aren't all as vocal about it as Orly Taitz and her followers, but nonetheless they are this ignorant. The largest numbers are from the South, surprise surprise.
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