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The reality is Indiana has the votes to get RTW through, so like many of the ten additional states considering RTW, they can whine all they like. It won't stop progress.
THEN LET THIS BE A WARNING TO INDIANA: Since right to work passed in Oklahoma in 2001, three large manufacturing plants have closed in my home town. They are still empty. (If you noticed that the pages of Rolling Stone are smaller, it reflects that it's no longer being printed in my home town.) This happened even though right to work promoters said it would likely make Oklahoma more attractive for manufacturing jobs.
In Oklahoma in 2000 before right to work passed the unemployment rate was 2.9%. Since the passage of right to work, the unemployment has never returned to that level.
If any jobs for certain came to Oklahoma from the result of right to work, then they were low paying ones, like warehouse jobs.
If it wasn't for a strong energy industry, as reflected by the new 50 story Devon Tower, Oklahoma would have been in a lot worse shape than it is now under right to work. But passage of right to work did not keep several large energy companies from leaving Oklahoma and going to Houston.
I'd be perfectly okay w/ companies paying union vs non-union wages. Let's see what worker is really against union dues when he's making $14/hour and no benefits, and his union co-worker is making $20/hour + bennies...
But company heads of unionized workplaces are most understandably against mandatory paycheck deductions to the union from every worker. Right to work would make it optional of a worker to give to a union. The company hope is as a result there would be enough free loaders to weaken the union and make it less able to afford to challenge company violations of the labor contract. Arbitrators aren't free.
But company heads of unionized workplaces are most understandably against mandatory paycheck deductions to the union from every worker. Right to work would make it optional, if a worker is to give to a union. The company hope is as a result there would be enough free loaders to weaken the union and make it less able to afford to challenge company violations of the labor contract.
The problem is that in Red states, you'd have people more than happy to reap the benefits of Union negotiations w/o contributing to the pot. They'd curse the union name all the way to their doctors & dentist w/o ever thinking one is only possible b/c of the other.
Let them show that they have the strength of their conviction. Upon hire show them the two benefits package: union vs non-union. I'd almost guarantee you'd see nary a budge in voluntary membership if this was in place.
Of course not. Completely democrat controlled, which is WHY the state is one of the worst to do business and drowning under all the debt. Which is also why so many business have LEFT the belly of the beast for Indiana/WI and other neighboring states.
Yea? Then what's the excuse for my home state? It's right to work, and has been from the beginning. We're broke, not attracting any real investment, nor are we attracting any high paying jobs in the private sector. This state STILL has to bribe businesses to come here with massive tax breaks despite having a pretty good business environment. Hell, our Workman's Comp burden is supposed to be one of the best in the country for employers. Unemployment insurance is pretty low (max that anyone here can collect is 240 weekly) so employers aren't burdened heavily by that either.
Not really. The point is if you really, really want a job at a specific company, you will be forced to join a union, so they can collect your dues and funnel it to the democrat party.
Hopefully, that will once again be banned in Indiana.
If you don't like unions your choice should be not to apply for a job with a union. Simple!
If you don't like unions your choice should be not to apply for a job with a union. Simple!
Cops, firefighters, teachers......union membership should not be required.
For decades the democrat party, unions have been tied at the hip....now they are reaping the reward as more and more states in GOP control, neuter the union from collecting dues that go straight to the democrat party. Simple.
And isn't it interesting that when given a CHOICE, unions members CHOOSE to keep their money instead of funneling it to the democrats?
After Daniels passed his CB bargaining bill a few years ago, 90% CHOSE to NOT pay union dues.
You DO know that the bill is only banning forced collection of dues by the union, right?
Cops, firefighters, teachers......union membership should not be required.
For decades the democrat party, unions have been tied at the hip....now they are reaping the reward as more and more states in GOP control, neuter the union from collecting dues that go straight to the democrat party. Simple.
And isn't it interesting that when given a CHOICE, unions members CHOOSE to keep their money instead of funneling it to the democrats?
After Daniels passed his CB bargaining bill a few years ago, 90% CHOSE to NOT pay union dues.
You DO know that the bill is only banning forced collection of dues by the union, right?
Once again, why is it so wrong to being forced to pay union dues as long as it means you're getting higher pay and better benefits than in a NON unionized place that would ever be so gladly to hire you?
And if the union in a state that does NOT have right to work is so sorry to its workers that a number of them are only working for minimum wage, then they should kick out the union and enjoy a small raise in pay, assuming the boss doesn't regard it as a good time to cut pay.
By the way, it's against the law for union dues to go to any political party. Also no one has to sign up to be an actual union member in a unionized work place, if he or she doesn't want to. But it's true the union in a state without right to work can specify in the labor contract that it can take deductions from paychecks of all workers, whether they are union members, or not.
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