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Old 01-15-2012, 03:07 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Why should a CEO or anyone get taxes at the much less capital gains tax rate instead of "ordinary income" rate like in a savings acct, CD, wages?
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Old 01-15-2012, 03:08 PM
 
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Because it's already been "earned" as income. The income invested in the first place was already taxed and investment HAS to be encouraged.

I wouldn't be opposed to making income and capital gains taxes the same as long as they were both no higher than current capital gains taxes (15%).
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Old 01-15-2012, 03:09 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Because it's already been "earned" as income. The income invested in the first place was already taxed.

Furthermore, investment has to be encouraged.
so has income derived from a person's savings account, yet we are taxed on that.
Wouldn't investment still occur even if it weren't "encouraged"? This is the same argument that
the govt subsidizes its favorite groups (tax breaks for families, college education, homeowners, etc)
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Old 01-15-2012, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Texas
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so has income derived from a person's savings account, yet we are taxed on that.
That's true, but investment is critical.

Like I said in my earlier post, I wouldn't care if all income (including through investment, savings, etc.) was considered income and taxed at the same rate, as long as that rate is not higher than current capital gains taxes regardless of income level.
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Old 01-15-2012, 03:11 PM
 
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so has income derived from a person's savings account, yet we are taxed on that.
Wouldn't investment still occur even if it weren't "encouraged"? This is the same argument that
the govt subsidizes its favorite groups.
Really? you have earned enough from a savings account to be taxed on it?
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Old 01-15-2012, 03:12 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Really? you have earned enough from a savings account to be taxed on it?
lol, yes, even at today's piddly low interest rates, I'm still taxed on it.
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Old 01-15-2012, 03:15 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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That's true, but investment is critical.

Like I said in my earlier post, I wouldn't care if all income (including through investment, savings, etc.) was considered income and taxed at the same rate, as long as that rate is not higher than current capital gains taxes regardless of income level.
If nobody paid more than current capital gains rates, then you're talking about another govt shortfall. Given the current atmosphere where neither party will cut entitlements or defense, just who would make up the shortfall?
Why does a "true" capitalist need a de facto "government subsidy" to continue their investments? Wouldn't they still invest even if they were taxed at a higher rate (ordinary income rate)?
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Old 01-15-2012, 03:19 PM
 
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Why does a "true" capitalist need a de facto "government subsidy" to continue their investments?
Lol. A government subsidy? The lefty thought process never ceases to amaze me.

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Wouldn't they still invest even if they were taxed at a higher rate (ordinary income rate)?
You act as if it's a black and white thing. The higher the rate, the less the ROI, the lower the "screw it" cutoff.
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Old 01-15-2012, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Lol. A government subsidy? The lefty thought process never ceases to amaze me.
Haha, I know! Apparently, wehotex has not a clue what the definition of subsidy is.

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A subsidy is money given by a government to help support a business or person the market does not support
Subsidy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 01-15-2012, 03:26 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Lol. A government subsidy? The lefty thought process never ceases to amaze me.



You act as if it's a black and white thing. The higher the rate, the less the ROI, the lower the "screw it" cutoff.

Why isn't it a subsidy? Govt is encouraging ppl (subsidizing) to act in a certain way. So what if the the ROI is less? Ordinary workers must grapple with the same sort of taxation. The more we work, the more they take. Nobody comes to their defense. Why are the capital gains folk such "sacred cows"?
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