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Great analysis! I wonder why some gay people do that (insist that straight guys secretly harbor gay tendencies, but gay guys are 100% gay with no deviation). Very interesting indeed.
It's because some straight guys do, indeed, harbor gay tendencies. There's no stigma to being straight, so it's highly unlikely that a gay guy would have closeted hetero feelings.
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Wait a minute.... Don't you have the CHOICE to have sex with either a man or a woman?
People have a CHOICE in everything in life...whether to drink coffee or tea...to eat beef or pork...to steal or not to steal. Why Would a person's CHOICE to have sex with someone of the same or opposite sex be an exception to the rule?
This is a strange kind of an idea, because many people can't stand to drink tea and others very strongly dislike pork. Sure they could jam the pork into their mouths and maybe even swallow it if someone were holding a gun to their head, or if they would win money by doing so. But there would be no pleasure in it. Still, technically they would be choosing to eat the pork.
It's the same with sex. Most guys can't get it up if they're not interested, so there wouldn't be any real choice about that, if they're going against the grain of their sexuality. A purely hetero guy could be forced at gunpoint to fellate a rapist, but he certainly wouldn't enjoy it, and yet he's making a choice between living with a repugnant act or dying. It's a true choice in the strictest sense, though not in a broader sense.
Similarly, true homosexuals would find it repugnant to couple with the opposite sex ...... they might be coerced into it, or manage somehow to do it with distaste for the sake of having their own flesh and blood children, or to obey their religion's rules.
I guess the broader sense of choice would be "willing choice". Gays and full heterosexuals don't have a willing choice about their orientation, it comes about by a combination of nature and nurture - mostly genetics in my opinion. In the strictest sense a gay person could choose a hetero partner, but it wouldn't be willingly, it wouldn't feel "right", and a gay man might not even be able to get it up for a woman.
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Rape in prison is not homosexuality. Rape is about power, violence, and control, not sex. Men have been raping other men for all of human history, and they are not gay. Sexual assaults in the military among men are quite high, and yet studies show that the overwhelming majority of the attackers are heterosexual.
That's the Oprah/feminist pop opinion I've heard for the last 30 years or so. If rape isn't about sex, they'd simply beat up the victim. In an all male environment, sex is about having orgasms without being too concerned where they are coming from, and no I don't believe that sex in prisons or the military is mostly about rape.
Dunno if it's true, but I've heard that old-timey lumberjacks used to drill holes in a wall, and each guy would take turns allowing anal sex from all the other lumberjacks. Similarly many restrooms nowadays have "glory holes" meant to facilitate anonymous sex between a gay guy inside, and a bisexual or desperate straight guy outside.
I was also reading about an anthropologist discussing sex with some South American jungle tribe ...... in an effort to open up the subject he mentioned how odd it was that some men would have sex with other men. The tribesman agreed that it was strange that some men would allow other men to use them ...... he said that when the men went out on a long hunt, one or two of the guys would willing let the others "get off" in them. I think they had the idea that men needed to have sex every night in order to be healthy .... not an uncommon belief around the Third World.
well considering many sociologists believe rape is about control and not sex, i think i'll go with that explanation.
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