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Old 01-10-2012, 03:57 PM
 
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your post sounds like nothing other then to punish young women who live a life you don't approve of. what rose colored glasses you wear if you think someone who makes the wrong choice most of the time, will suddenly become a sensible, responsible, caring parent. your reality check will do nothing to make irresponsible people responsible. you really want unwanted children raised by irresponsible people?
No, what I want is Front Side Personal Responsibility. But since there are millions of men and women whom apparently don't know what that means, I think it makes sense that a sonogram will put things into perspective.

The Liberal Position of "out of sight, out of mind" is intended solely to ensure that a personally irresponsible person gets to live consequence free. Abortion is called Back Side Personal Responsiblity. I find that position to be highly disgusting.
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:00 PM
 
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Having an abortion is accepting responsibilty for their actions. Unwanted pregnancy is a problem and they are dealing with it the way they choose to.
Your philosophy of Back Side Personal Responsibility....instead of Front Side Personal Responsibility.....is absolutely disgusting.
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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No, what I want is Front Side Personal Responsibility. But since there are millions of men and women whom apparently don't know what that means, I think it makes sense that a sonogram will put things into perspective.

The Liberal Position of "out of sight, out of mind" is intended solely to ensure that a personally irresponsible person gets to live consequence free. Abortion is called Back Side Personal Responsiblity. I find that position to be highly disgusting.
Having an abortion is not "consequence free". Do you think having an abortion is fun?
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:08 PM
 
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No, what I want is Front Side Personal Responsibility. But since there are millions of men and women whom apparently don't know what that means, I think it makes sense that a sonogram will put things into perspective.

The Liberal Position of "out of sight, out of mind" is intended solely to ensure that a personally irresponsible person gets to live consequence free. Abortion is called Back Side Personal Responsiblity. I find that position to be highly disgusting.

someone not practicing "front side responsibility" is not going to become responsible because they viewed an ultrasound. a sonogram will not be the cure all that will change these people's lives. get real.
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Republicans, growing government since 1860. Democrats are growing givernment.

Both cost you money.
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:09 PM
 
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Having an abortion is accepting responsibilty for their actions. Unwanted pregnancy is a problem and they are dealing with it the way they choose to.
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:29 PM
 
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Either the structures needed to feel pain are there, or they aren't.

Regardless, on demand abortions are done long before there is any chance of feeling pain, by any scientist's estimation.
Wrong.
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:47 PM
 
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Liberals don't want you to see the sonogram because they're afraid you'll know what you're looking at.

Women changing their minds after seeing the human life they have created goes counter to the Liberal Ideology that killing babies is good for the world.

That's why they oppose this law.
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Old 01-10-2012, 05:06 PM
 
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Liberals don't want you to see the sonogram because they're afraid you'll know what you're looking at.

Women changing their minds after seeing the human life they have created goes counter to the Liberal Ideology that killing babies is good for the world.

That's why they oppose this law.
again women are not stupid. we don't need to see a sonogram to know what a pregnancy means. people oppose this law because it is unnecessary, expensive and redundant
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Old 01-10-2012, 05:06 PM
 
Location: the Beaver State
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What is disgusting is that pro-abortionists advocate killing the life over putting the baby up for adoption so it can have a loving home. And don't feed me crap about how there are so many kids in foster care. As someone who has looked into domestic adoption of an infant, I can say the waiting lists are a mile long. The ones who end up in foster care are born to parents who are screwups but decide they want to try to be a parent an get their welfare checks and end up getting the kid(s) taken away. Many of these are minorities, and statistically speaking, there are fewer black adoptive parents than white ones, so they end up in the system.
There are 1.4 Million Abortions per a year in the US. There are about 40,000 children up for adoption every year in the US. 20,000 a year are adopted, mostly infants. The adoption rate drops off drastically as the child gets older, until they are virtually un-adoptible as teenagers.

Assuming an extremely conservative ten percent of those that are currently aborted are put up for adoption instead, that is 140,000 more children per a year in the adoption system.

Who is going to pay for an 250% increase in the orphan population? Who is going to adopt these extra children?

How are we going to counter the inevitable crime rate that will rise due to so many children having grown up in institutions (or foster families,) vs.caring families?

I'm all for stopping abortions completely. But it leaves a messy and expensive problem. You're far better off stopping the problem at the other end with proper education in safe sex. It's cheaper in the long run.
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