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Old 01-12-2012, 06:28 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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If you are pro choice you are pro abortion
That is absolutely false. You very obviously don't know what you are talking about.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:32 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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If you are pro choice you are for the use of abortion as a choice thus pro abortion. For if you were agianst abortion you woudl not be pro choice
If that were true, you would not make ANY exceptions. Rape? Have a baby. Incest? Have a baby. Severe fetal abnormalities? Have a baby with severe lifelong health issues. Health threat to the mother? Too bad. Maybe the doctors can save the baby when mom dies.

This is the ONLY position that makes sense for somebody that claims that they are opposed to abortion.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:37 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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if you are for the use of abortion you are pro abortion

I have bene on the board of a local non profit adoption agency for 25 years. I have helped approve over 10,000
Im not a suitable single parent as i have health issues
Then just exactly WHAT have you sacrificed to help all these unwanted children? I would assume you are willing to pay the living expenses and medical costs for some of the women that you want to force to have babies. How many of them have you volunteered to support through their pregnancy?
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:41 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Why go in to any major decision blind?

You want full disclosure before people get pregnant with unwanted pregnancies, let them have full disclosure when they are.

Who is it hurting? Other than those who don't understand what they are aborting?

I'm pro-abortion. Get rid of it if you can't handle it. Please, don't bring another life into this world that I and everyone else has to pay for if you can't afford the child or a child you're going to hate if you CAN afford the child...and then the kid ends up a serial killer b/c you suck as a parent.

Abort away.

Please.

Just be well informed, don't turn a blind eye and say you were "informed". I don't see why there is a problem with seeing a blob of cells you are about to abort?
This is more BS. Any doctor willing to perform an abortion reviews all the options with patients. That includes continuation of the pregnancy, and it also includes all the various abortion options. This law is just about punishment. It's an attempt to make abortions harder to get because those Texas Republicans think the peasants shouldn't get to decide for themselves what to do with their bodies.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:43 AM
 
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If that were true, you would not make ANY exceptions. Rape? Have a baby. Incest? Have a baby. Severe fetal abnormalities? Have a baby with severe lifelong health issues. Health threat to the mother? Too bad. Maybe the doctors can save the baby when mom dies.

This is the ONLY position that makes sense for somebody that claims that they are opposed to abortion.
The ONLY position that makes sense for choicers is to eliminate all restrictions against abortion at any time before birth.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Forcing a patient to undergo ANY medical procedure is a violation of the patient’s basic right to control their own body. This applies to forcing a sonogram as well as preventing an abortion. To do either is the choice of the individual woman and not the State or the Church.

Abortion is a procedure that is the choice of the woman and not anyone else. Without that choice half of our population has no rights at all. What are women? Are they chattel to be owned and controlled by the fathers, brothers or husbands for all their lives? Welcome to your tyranny. Keep it away from my freedom and the freedom of all women.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:45 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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What's redundant?

Women know what being pregnant is? What does that mean?

Women who have abortions don't get an u/s? What kind of a quack would go into a uterus willy nilly without checking it out first? The pregnancy could be ectopic or a possible non-traumatic miscarriage before abortion takes place.
If you're not a doctor, you are not qualified to decide what a doctor needs to do.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:47 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Rape and incest account for like 1% of all abortions. These women should put the babies up for adoption.
That's ridiculous. For many women, the trauma they experienced going through rape and incest is multiplied many times over if they are forced to continue their pregnancy.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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The ONLY position that makes sense for choicers is to eliminate all restrictions against abortion at any time before birth.
That is not true. Pro-choice means giving women the option to choose to keep the baby, abortion, or adoption.

There are a very few, tiny minority in the pro-choice movement who believe abortion should be available on demand up until 40 weeks gestation. They are by far the minority, and of course this is not legal.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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When you say that, you imply that what she is doing is wrong. You have no right to do that. When it's your body, you get to decide. Not when it is somebody else's. BTW, you never did offer to write the checks to pay for all thisemedical stuff.
what i think does not matter. The woman should be given the full information including seeing her baby .
here is more information:

House Bill 15, sponsored by state Rep. Sid Miller, R-Stephenville, requires a doctor performing an abortion to conduct the sonogram at least 24 hours before the procedure was to take place. The doctor also is required to show the woman the sonogram image, play the sound of the fetal heartbeat for her and describe in some detail the image that appears on the sonogram. The woman does not have to view the sonogram or hear the heartbeat, although she still would have to hear the doctor's description.
Abortion sonogram bill advances in Texas House - Houston Chronicle
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