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Old 01-10-2012, 01:50 PM
 
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Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans - Tech Talk - CBS News

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STANFORD, Calif.--President Obama is planning to hand the U.S. Commerce Department authority over a forthcoming cybersecurity effort to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official said here today.

It's "the absolute perfect spot in the U.S. government" to centralize efforts toward creating an "identity ecosystem" for the Internet, White House Cybersecurity Coordinator Howard Schmidt said
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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Just a question, but don't we have this kinda in place already with the IP address?
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:54 PM
 
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Just a question, but don't we have this kinda in place already with the IP address?
No, an IP address can ultimately be traced back to a location, but not a person, or even an individual computer (you'd need a MAC address for that). Furthermore, the government can't just "grab" IP addresses from people it doesn't like - they have to go through the courts unless they claim terrorism.

What this is talking about is every American registering a user name and password, and anything they do on the internet being monitored and recorded into a database tied to that user name and password. You know, for our "convenience".
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:55 PM
 
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It's for our own protection and certainly would never be used against us

Just when you thought Bush was a wrecking crew for our civil liberties, along comes Obama who is not to be outdone.
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:59 PM
 
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This would be practically impossible and super expensive to get off the ground. This would mean that EVERY place you have a username and password would have to be changed. Also, every single database that stores your credentials would have to be tied into a central database so it can verify them to be you and not someone using your username.
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Old 01-10-2012, 02:01 PM
 
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This would be practically impossible and super expensive to get off the ground. This would mean that EVERY place you have a username and password would have to be changed. Also, every single database that stores your credentials would have to be tied into a central database so it can verify them to be you and not someone using your username.
We print our own money. We built Carnivore and Echelon. You really think we couldn't make it happen if the government decided to do it? It's really very simple. You require a user name and password prior to being granted internet access - much like when you use a hotel's wi-fi. From that point forward, all of your activity is sent to a central database and logged. You say it can't be done, I say China already pretty much does it.
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Old 01-10-2012, 02:04 PM
 
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This would be practically impossible and super expensive to get off the ground. This would mean that EVERY place you have a username and password would have to be changed. Also, every single database that stores your credentials would have to be tied into a central database so it can verify them to be you and not someone using your username.
Not at all. It could be done directly through the ISP.
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Old 01-10-2012, 02:15 PM
 
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We print our own money. We built Carnivore and Echelon. You really think we couldn't make it happen if the government decided to do it? It's really very simple. You require a user name and password prior to being granted internet access - much like when you use a hotel's wi-fi. From that point forward, all of your activity is sent to a central database and logged. You say it can't be done, I say China already pretty much does it.
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Not at all. It could be done directly through the ISP.
There is much more involved than you think. What about wifi? How do you have guests in your establishment that use your free wifi logon through that ISP? All your guests logon as you and you are responsible for their actions? What about free public hotspots around the cities?
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Old 01-10-2012, 02:15 PM
 
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Yeah, I'm sure corporations will just hand over their ID/password process to the government.

Well I got dibs on "HappyTexan" OK ???? If that's taken and I get stuck with something like "zqr339stvw227" I'm gonna turn into "GrumpyTexan"
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Old 01-10-2012, 02:20 PM
 
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There is much more involved than you think. What about wifi? How do you have guests in your establishment that use your free wifi logon through that ISP? All your guests logon as you and you are responsible for their actions? What about free public hotspots around the cities?
Would be a little more difficult but it could still be done on the network level rather than the application level.

Besides, when has a ridiculous amount of unnecessary complexity stopped the government from doing something?
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