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How am I wrong? If, as you claim, this women was fired on religious grounds, what were they? What religious reason did they fire her for?
The Supreme Court decision was unanimous. Go read their findings if you want to understand the details.
The woman was a minister and could be fired by the Church which they did.
The Supreme Court decision was unanimous. Go read their findings if you want to understand the details.
It's a simple question. Can you answer it? - If this women was fired on religious grounds, what were they? What religious reason did they fire her for?
And I've read the decision as well as (most of) the petitioner's and responder's briefs. I summarized the nuts-and-bolts of the case in an earlier post:
The woman was a minister and could be fired by the Church which they did.
This women was not fired for any religious reason or upon any religious grounds. She wasn't fired because the Church didn't appreciate or like the way she was ministering to the flock. She was fired because of her disability.
The issue wasn't can the church dismiss religious leaders on religious grounds (or any other grounds for that matter). The issue before the court was does this women quality as a religious leader (minster) within the Church and is therefore exempt from ADA protection, or was she an employee (a teacher) of the school covered by the act.
The Supreme Court decision was unanimous. Go read their findings if you want to understand the details.
The woman was a minister and could be fired by the Church which they did.
The Supreme Court has long recognized a First Amendment right for religious organizations to control their own internal affairs, including the selection of their religious leaders — a history in which the Court has had a role since 1872 and in which the Founding generation was involved at least as early as 1806.
I guess that would be your "religious grounds", although that is a misnomer.
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Tracing the constitutional history of allowing religious organizations the independent right to control their internal affairs, Chief Justice Roberts’ opinion said the string of Court rulings going back to Watson v. Jones in 1872 “confirm that it is impermissible for the government to contradict a church’s determination of who can act as its ministers.”
Sorry if you don't like what the constitution says about.
This women was not fired for any religious reason or upon any religious grounds. She wasn't fired because the Church didn't appreciate or like the way she was ministering to the flock. She was fired because of her disability.
The issue wasn't can the church dismiss religious leaders on religious grounds (or any other grounds for that matter). The issue before the court was does this women quality as a religious leader (minster) within the Church and is therefore exempt from ADA protection, or was she an employee (a teacher) of the school covered by the act.
Hey..you go tell the 9 Supreme Justices they were wrong..ok ?
I'm fine with their decision that the Church can make its own decisions.
Hey..you go tell the 9 Supreme Justices they were wrong..ok ?
I'm fine with their decision that the Church can make its own decisions.
Cheers! I'll second that!
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