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Old 01-23-2012, 01:17 AM
 
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The number of people on "the dole" in one form or another just keeps growing, how much longer can this go on?

in 2011 nearly half of the population lived in a household that receives some form of government benefit, which in turn accounted for 65% of total federal spending, or $2.5 trillion, and amount to 15% of GDP


United Welfare States of America: In 2011 Nearly Half The Population Received Some Form Of Government Benefit | ZeroHedge
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Old 01-23-2012, 04:26 AM
 
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So, "some form of government benefit" is equated to welfare?

I'm assuming that includes Social Security, Veteran's disability payments, government worker retirement, military pay, wages and a host of other things which are not welfare, but are a government benefit.

Be leery of websites which mix up data to prove its point. That's called "spin" and is always agenda driven.

And, that's especially true of groups who won't tell you who they are. In the case of this site, they hide behind the Constitution to avoid "retaliation."

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Old 01-23-2012, 05:41 AM
 
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So, "some form of government benefit" is equated to welfare?
By definition, yes.. Some form of government benefits = welfare

welfare: aid to people in need: financial aid and other benefits for people who are unemployed, below a specific income level, or otherwise requiring assistance, especially when provided by a government agency or program

I ignored the rest of your babble since you ignored the definition of the word.
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Old 01-23-2012, 05:45 AM
 
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By definition, yes.. Some form of government benefits = welfare

welfare: aid to people in need: financial aid and other benefits for people who are unemployed, below a specific income level, or otherwise requiring assistance, especially when provided by a government agency or program

I ignored the rest of your babble since you ignored the definition of the word.

So, Social Security and VA disability are "welfare?" Or, military retirement?

There IS a difference, you know, between earned benefits and assistance. The OP's website doesn't make that distinction and, apparently, neither to do you.
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Old 01-23-2012, 05:55 AM
 
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So, Social Security and VA disability are "welfare?" Or, military retirement?

There IS a difference, you know, between earned benefits and assistance. The OP's website doesn't make that distinction and, apparently, neither to do you.
Yes Social Security, and VA disability is welfare. The money ISNT YOURS, and you receive it as WELFARE PAYMENTS.

Thats why their obligations arent counted towards the national debt.
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Old 01-23-2012, 05:56 AM
 
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I'd make the argument that it's closer to 100%, since everyone that receives a paycheck got the payroll tax cut that was just extended.
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:01 AM
 
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I'd make the argument that it's closer to 100%, since everyone that receives a paycheck got the payroll tax cut that was just extended.
And here is the problem with the american education system.

Allowing you to keep YOUR MONEY, isnt welfare nor is it government spending.
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:10 AM
 
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The number of people on "the dole" in one form or another just keeps growing, how much longer can this go on?

in 2011 nearly half of the population lived in a household that receives some form of government benefit, which in turn accounted for 65% of total federal spending, or $2.5 trillion, and amount to 15% of GDP


United Welfare States of America: In 2011 Nearly Half The Population Received Some Form Of Government Benefit | ZeroHedge
What about the grandiose 'doles' that allowed weasels to under pay them in the first place? What about the infrastructure costs born on 99% to facilitate the 1%? What about the blood and tears they paid to military industrial complex hyenas hijacking America? How's that tax the poor at 30%, tax the idle rich living on dividends at 15% working out for everyone? How much longer can THAT go on?
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:11 AM
 
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hope and change baby!
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:11 AM
 
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Oppps. Correction. Not idle rich. The rich using their money to conspire against my constitution. Otherwise understood as traitors throughout this nations history.
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