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American arrogance will lead to our downfall just like it did in other empires. Russia just drew a line in the sand saying an attack on Iran is an attack on Moscow. Say what you want about the Russian military...........but with Syria, Iran, Russia, etc......this is not another Iraq or Afghanistan.......Russia has nuclear weapons. And China is a wild card. We going to call their bluff with everything going on in the world economically? Our steadfast unwavering desire to control the middle east and destabilize it is going to ruin our country and already is taking a heavy toll on us. Because that's exactly what this is about.......controlling the middle east and further tightening our grip on the world and this outdated notion of American exceptionalism and international manifest destiny. We fight in the middle east not for terrorism or freedom/democracy but for control of a very strategic area of the world.
Russia is just posturing they do not mean that they would not get into a Nuclear war with us because of the MAD doctrine which states:
Second-strike capability
Main article: Second-strike
A first strike must not be capable of preventing a retaliatory second strike or else mutual destruction is not assured. In this case, a state would have nothing to lose with a first strike; or might try to preempt the development of an opponent's second-strike capability with a first strike (i.e., decapitation strike). To avoid this, countries may design their nuclear forces to make decapitation strike almost impossible, by dispersing launchers over wide areas and using a combination of sea-based, air-based, underground, and mobile land-based launchers.
Perfect detection
No false positives (errors) in the equipment and/or procedures that must identify a launch by the other side. The implication of this is that an accident could lead to a full nuclear exchange. During the Cold War there were several instances of false positives, as in the case of Stanislav Petrov.
No possibility of camouflaging a launch. The use of stealth technology in aircraft such as the B-2 bomber makes this assumption less likely to be fulfilled.
No means of delivery that does not have the characteristics of a long range missile delivery, i.e. detectable far ahead of detonation. Again this assumption is challengeable with for instance stealth aircraft but also with other means, such as smuggling weapons to the target undetected (using devices like a suitcase nuke). A close range missile attack from a submarine would also negate this assumption, as would positioning the weapons close to the intended target (exemplified in the Cuban Missile Crisis).
Perfect attribution. If there is a launch from the Sino-Russian border, it could be difficult to distinguish which nation is responsible—both Russia and China have the capability—and, hence, against which nation retaliation should occur.
Perfect rationality
No "rogue states" will develop nuclear weapons. Or, if they do, they will stop behaving as rogue states and subject themselves to the logic of MAD.
Nuclear weapons states must not treat other nuclear weapons states as "rogue states".
No rogue commanders will have the ability to corrupt the launch decision process (this is demonstrated with Dr. Strangelove).
All leaders with launch capability care about the survival of their subjects (a religiously-minded leader may welcome Armageddon and launch an unprovoked attack).
No leader with launch capability would strike first and gamble that the opponent's response system would fail.
My point is Russia is still one of the most advanced militaries in the world as far as size, scope, and capabilities. We have called their bluff before and it may very well be posturing but are we prepared to call their bluff? Yeah right I think not. Russia is not going to put up with our imperialism in their backdoor much longer, neither will China. You think Russia and China are going to sit back and let us take over the middle east? You're crazy.
I'm just curious.. Is ANYBODY here aware that their is a very quiet revolution going on internally in Iran? Could it just be possible that their problem with losing scientists is internal? Information doesn't flow freely out of Iran, but enough has come out to know that they are facing increasing opposition from within their own borders.
I'm just curious.. Is ANYBODY here aware that their is a very quiet revolution going on internally in Iran? Could it just be possible that their problem with losing scientists is internal? Information doesn't flow freely out of Iran, but enough has come out to know that they are facing increasing opposition from within their own borders.
If it weren't for our constant threats and warmongering, and constant provocations, it may very well be that the Iranian people would've overthrown the Islamic Republic by now. Everytime we threaten Iran, it only consolidates their population behind their government.
If it weren't for our constant threats and warmongering, and constant provocations, it may very well be that the Iranian people would've overthrown the Islamic Republic by now. Everytime we threaten Iran, it only consolidates their population behind their government.
Iran was a parliamentary democracy headed by a democratically elected Mossadeq in the 1950s. He was done the minute he decided to nationalize the British oil companies and take care of the poor and working class people of Iran. We have been meddling in Iran with CIA and MI6 backed regime change for 60+ years. It was the British who carved up the middle east after WWII for economic reasons. We killed 250 Iranian men women and children on Flight 655 and didn't utter an iota of apology to the Iranian people. So the message we can take home from all of this? Don't f'k with the banking/oil cartels. They control the world, especially US foreign policy.
American arrogance will lead to our downfall just like it did in other empires. Russia just drew a line in the sand saying an attack on Iran is an attack on Moscow. Say what you want about the Russian military...........but with Syria, Iran, Russia, etc......this is not another Iraq or Afghanistan.......Russia has nuclear weapons. And China is a wild card. We going to call their bluff with everything going on in the world economically? Our steadfast unwavering desire to control the middle east and destabilize it is going to ruin our country and already is taking a heavy toll on us. Because that's exactly what this is about.......controlling the middle east and further tightening our grip on the world and this outdated notion of American exceptionalism and international manifest destiny. We fight in the middle east not for terrorism or freedom/democracy but for control of a very strategic area of the world.
There was a prophesy years ago, that it would take God to stop the Russians.
Your absolutely correct. I wouldn't second guess the Russians.
They have been working overtime on underground cities that will preserve their leaders and families during an event just like the one we are headed for.
China has 3,000 mi. of underground facilities as well.
America would have to go MADD to keep up with both of them.
There was a prophesy years ago, that it would take God to stop the Russians.
Your absolutely correct. I wouldn't second guess the Russians.
They have been working overtime on underground cities that will preserve their leaders and families during an event just like the one we are headed for.
China has 3,000 mi. of underground facilities as well.
America would have to go MADD to keep up with both of them.
And the one thing the Chinese and the Russians have is their nationalistic pride. What does it mean to be American anymore? The Constitution? Our own President takes a crap on it. A melting pot of multiculturalism where Muslims demand footbaths in our airport? Hollywood and WallStreet? I fear the Chinese and Russians simply because they believe in being Russian and Chinese and they would die to protect their way of life and their national sovereignty. American sovereignty has been up for sale to by the lobbyists and corporations with the deepest pockets.
Iran was a parliamentary democracy headed by a democratically elected Mossadeq in the 1950s. He was done the minute he decided to nationalize the British oil companies and take care of the poor and working class people of Iran. We have been meddling in Iran with CIA and MI6 backed regime change for 60+ years. It was the British who carved up the middle east after WWII for economic reasons. We killed 250 Iranian men women and children on Flight 655 and didn't utter an iota of apology to the Iranian people. So the message we can take home from all of this? Don't f'k with the banking/oil cartels. They control the world, especially US foreign policy.
How many times you want to lie in the same post?
#1-mossadegh had disbanded parliament, and tried to take over as dictator
#2-the shah ALREADY EXISTED in iran long before mossadegh
#3-the US paid reparations for the downing of the airliner - what reparations has iran done for its massive amounts of terrorism?
#1-mossadegh had disbanded parliament, and tried to take over as dictator
#2-the shah ALREADY EXISTED in iran long before mossadegh
#3-the US paid reparations for the downing of the airliner - what reparations has iran done for its massive amounts of terrorism?
No one is looking for moral equivalence, the rulers of this world operate in darkness. Using the sheeple to do their dirty work.
The blind lead the blind, they all fall in the ditch (grave).
It's to late for America. The war has started the battle begun. Enjoy what you have until it's gone.
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