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Old 01-15-2012, 12:03 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Even Bachmann was out repeating this load of crap in public not long ago. I've heard this articulated on this forum as well. I heard it again just recently, and it just burns me up. "Oh, the gays have equal rights and the playing field is level...they just have to marry a person of the opposite sex, same as me. See? No discrimination at all!"

ba boom, crash. Nice joke. Thank you, I'll be here all week. Try the veal, it's great.


The key right at stake here is obviously the right to be in a legally recognized union with a mature person of orientation that you desire to be with.

It's like telling a black person in the 1800s, "Oh, you have the exact same rights under the law as I do; all you have to do is be white-skinned, not black - see? I have to abide by the same law." Or telling a woman at the turn of the century that she has the same equal right to vote as men do...so long as she grows a penis and gets rid of her ovaries.

How CONVENIENT, of course, that "the law" just so happens to favor their skin / sexual orientation...


I still can't fathom how anyone over the age of, say, ten can't tell the obvious logical fallacy with this. So the question to me is: are those people who repeat this really that stupid, or are they being willfully ignorant hypocrites because their rigid beliefs force them to accept blindness to reason? I'm really on the fence on this one.
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Reality
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I'm a conservative who supports gay rights, gay marriage and even gay adoption. There's no reason why we as a people should look down on anyone with a minor mental disorder who otherwise function fine in life. Gay people should be treated equally, it's just that simple.
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:07 PM
 
Location: California
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I've only heard that argument being made in a derogatory manner. I don't think anyone who is actually having a serious conversation on the subject would go there. It completely ignores the other side of the equation, being the straight person who is stuck married to a homosexual. That's too much REAL for anyone to joke about.
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:13 PM
 
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I'm a conservative who supports gay rights, gay marriage and even gay adoption.
Your post just destroyed the premise of this other thread on a similar subject

Those against gay marriage are more likely to be racists
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I'm a conservative who supports gay rights, gay marriage and even gay adoption. There's no reason why we as a people should look down on anyone with a minor mental disorder who otherwise function fine in life. Gay people should be treated equally, it's just that simple.
Are you suggesting that homosexuals have a mental disorder?
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:23 PM
 
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If gay people have the right to marry straight people of the opposite sex, how come straight people don't get the right to marry gay people of the same sex?

Two can play at this twisted game of logic.
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:24 PM
 
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Are you suggesting that homosexuals have a mental disorder?
I'd rather they think that homosexuals have a mental disorder than to harass and bully them. At least it's a more compassionate opinion.
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Reality
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Are you suggesting that homosexuals have a mental disorder?
Are you suggesting that homosexuality is a choice a person makes? Why would anyone choose to be gay?
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:27 PM
 
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It is not a federal question. The right of a person to be married exists only as provided under state (not federal) law. Each state has the sovereign power to enact laws governing marriage; and provided that such laws do not infringe upon a citizen’s rights under the Fourteenth Amendment, they are valid and enforceable. See Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967).
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Are you suggesting that homosexuality is a choice a person makes? Why would anyone choose to be gay?
No one chooses their sexual orientation.

So you are suggesting such. Pathetic.
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