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Old 01-15-2012, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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I came across this interesting tidbit in the 1958 moral theology manual Moral Theology: A Complete Course Based on St. Thomas Aquinas and the Best Modern Authorities by John McHugh and Charles Callan, who I believe are Dominican (O.P.) priests:

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2650. Is There Any Obligation of Giving Employment?--(a) The State
certainly has an obligation in legal justice of offering opportunities
of work to those who cannot find it, if the public welfare is
compromised by widespread unemployment. Even if only one worker were
without work through no fault of his own, the duty of helping him would
seem to devolve on the State, since the laborer has a right to work and
the State has the duty of promoting the temporal welfare of its
subjects when they are unable to provide for themselves.
Are you in agreement with this proposition? Does the state have an obligation to "promote the temporal welfare of its subjects" or provide a job to workers?
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Old 01-15-2012, 11:21 PM
 
Location: My little slice of Levy County, FL
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Are you in agreement with this proposition? Does the state have an obligation to "promote the temporal welfare of its subjects" or provide a job to workers?
No and no.
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Old 01-16-2012, 01:42 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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The federal government has the responsibility to govern in such a manner that fosters job growth, but has no responsibility to find jobs.
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Old 01-16-2012, 02:24 AM
 
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The best way for the state to promote the general welfare of the subjects is to stay out of their lives and wallets.
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Old 01-16-2012, 03:04 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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What's wrong with the state giving jobs to people in order to make them earn their welfare or unemployment checks until they can find jobs in the private sector?
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Old 01-16-2012, 03:32 AM
 
Location: SWUS
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What's wrong with the state giving jobs to people in order to make them earn their welfare or unemployment checks until they can find jobs in the private sector?
This is actually an interesting idea... make them EARN it.

It is not, however, the state's responsibility to make sure its citizens are employed. If you want nice things in life, you gotta have the drive to get them- and that includes looking for a job.
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Old 01-16-2012, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The federal government has the responsibility to govern in such a manner that fosters job growth, but has no responsibility to find jobs.
Would you please tell the people in Wash DC that ? They seem to think they do have to find jobs for Americans.
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Old 01-16-2012, 07:22 AM
 
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What's wrong with the state giving jobs to people in order to make them earn their welfare or unemployment checks until they can find jobs in the private sector?
Because the state has no business/authority subsidizing unemployment and welfare in the first place.
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Old 01-16-2012, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Because the state has no business/authority subsidizing unemployment and welfare in the first place.
Well FDR put that precedent in place decades ago. And it's snowballed into what we have today.
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Old 01-16-2012, 07:35 AM
 
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the federal government has the responsibility to govern in such a manner that fosters job growth, but has no responsibility to find jobs.


+2..................
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