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Well, if you sell someone a drug that you know is going to kill them.....that's murder....right?
"What it means is that the penalties for dealing fentanyl or methamphetamine give prosecutors the option of charging drug dealers with first-degree murder if an overdose leads to death. If convicted the drug dealer could face life in prison or the death penalty."
"The dangerous man-made drug is 50 to 300 times more potent than morphine. Many overdose victims don’t even realize they’ve taken it."
“We have folks buying pills stamped M30 to look like oxycodone. It’s not oxycodone,” Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said. “It’s got binders in it and fentanyl. So they’re taking the oxycodone, right? They’re getting an overdose of fentanyl.”
“I truly believe that if you are intentionally giving someone something that you know is going to kill them, it is a murder,” Mike Itani, whose son died of a fentanyl overdose, said."
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First degree murder requires intent.
You can't just have negligence, and get the death penalty.
Locally we just lost two high school students to a fentanyl overdose, after their dealer texted them a warning; apparently he learned after selling them that they were tainted and would kill them if they used them. They did it anyway.
I don't know what you can do about this situation, in cases like that.
I agree that whoever is tainting the drugs on purpose to kill people have intent; but the dealer himself, who may not have any idea the drugs are tainted doesn't have intent.
For fentanyl , I may support that penalty in some cases I sure do support long prison time. I DO NOT support mandatory sentencing, I believe one size fits all laws are flawed and that judges should have say in sentencing based on particular cases.
The thing is since fentanyl became so wide spread, certain unscrupulous drug dealers put it in all sorts of drugs now even in marijuana , people buying MJ or cocaine and so on may not be aware of the fentanyl being laced in it and there have been many overdoses because. This one more reason to fully legalize marijuana IMO.
Ten years ago there was the major opiate pill epidemic like oxicodone and dilaudid, then government cracked down on that so opiate addicts turned to heroin and since now that fentanyl is cheaper and more powerful it has become wide spread. Fact is addicts were safer with getting the prescription pills but now also dealers are purposely putting fentanyl in all kinds of drugs even in meth and not telling people.
I'm a republican voter by the way, conservative many times but on this I support legalization of MJ, government supported access to rehabilitation because that will help people beat addiction, and I do not support short sighted mandatory sentencing that is one size fits all and ties the hands of judges based on individual cases.
You can't just have negligence, and get the death penalty.
Locally we just lost two high school students to a fentanyl overdose, after their dealer texted them a warning; apparently he learned after selling them that they were tainted and would kill them if they used them. They did it anyway.
I don't know what you can do about this situation, in cases like that.
I agree that whoever is tainting the drugs on purpose to kill people have intent; but the dealer himself, who may not have any idea the drugs are tainted doesn't have intent.
You can if the law is written that way. Drug dealers know their product causes hard including death. That is intent.
You can if the law is written that way. Drug dealers know their product causes hard including death. That is intent.
yep agreed yes it is, intent to cut a product saving money for them and to purposely hook people. Also not disclosing that fentanyl is in it is knowing putting people at a largely increased threat. The kids at the spring break in Miami who bought cocaine laced with fentanyl and who died because is a example.
Obviously the intent to apply the death penalty is more about creating a public perception of “ doing something” than having an impact on business as usual- a political stunt.
Those purchasing hard drugs off the street are at substantially higher risk of premature death than the individuals who sell / traffic the drugs.
Drug dealers are criminals and should be punished but death penalty because a addict customer od's?
Yes drug dealers and smugglers are criminals that purposely ignore the law, kill competitors, bribe officials etc and are some of the most greedy people on the planet. But their customer junkies are some of the most selfish constantly seeking personal gratification. Yes a drug dealer could be negligent with their product but so could the user. Why would a drug dealer kill of their customers
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