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This has probably been here before but it can never be offered too many times. There is a very good chance that Obama is for sure trying to do what Cloward and Piven suggested when they were working at Columbia. This points out so much that has been done during The One's three years in office that it appears to me that given 4 more years he may well destroy this country, as we all know it.
He seems hell bent on collapsing the economy. He runs up the debt, strangles energy production, and imposes so many regulations that businesses are shutting down, downsizing, or going overseas, and he has expanded Food stamps and unemployment to historic levels, and his solution is to press his foot on the gas pedal and drive us all off a cliff.
This has probably been here before but it can never be offered too many times. There is a very good chance that Obama is for sure trying to do what Cloward and Piven suggested when they were working at Columbia. This points out so much that has been done during The One's three years in office that it appears to me that given 4 more years he may well destroy this country, as we all know it.
Roy roy roy, so disappointed that you keep posting this opinion crap that states assumptions as fact, and tries to loosely tie vague facts with a massive conspiracy theory.
"The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed,
for the vast masses of a nation are in the depths of their hearts more
easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad. The
primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a
big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies,
but would be ashamed to tell big lies." - Hitler.
So whats the bigger lie?
That government over spending and government mismanagement caused a systematic failure of our economy starting around the year 2005 that was the failure of several administrations and decades of congresses to resolve future problems that were obviously there. And that after all of that mismanagement, its taking time for the nation to turn around. We have had positive job growth for over 10 months now.
or......
That an entire huge left wing conspiracy theory has been ongoing since before the year 1961 to fool the American people into believing that a Kenyan born national who was indeed born in Indonesia, conspired with the entire state of Hawaii and their health department to fool us into thinking that he was an American citizen to win the White House in 2008 when he would ultimately implement the plan started before Kennedy took office and followed by both parties to destroy the country so that they could turn it into a communist nation.
This has probably been here before but it can never be offered too many times. There is a very good chance that Obama is for sure trying to do what Cloward and Piven suggested when they were working at Columbia. This points out so much that has been done during The One's three years in office that it appears to me that given 4 more years he may well destroy this country, as we all know it.
The author of your linked drivel seems to have a very flexible relationship with truth. He's claiming to be a classmate of Obama's in this piece, and in other e-mail forwards, he claims to have no recollection of Obama at Coulbia at all. Isn't the neo-conservative mind a wondrous thing?
Go back to sleep, and you may wake up in an Obama commune, milking cows in the barn stalls and shoveling more crap for him than you are right now.
Well if it ever got that far, he would sure of had to have a lot of help from Republicans serving in the house and Senate...and the Supreme court...and other such governmental checks and balances...
So please take this scenerio out of the land of fiction and explain to us how this could ever occur??
Go ahead and explain what Cloward and Piven were suggestiong back when Obama was attending Columbia if not what this link says. Surely you can explain that with something other than "Dumb".
Roy roy roy, so disappointed that you keep posting this opinion crap that states assumptions as fact, and tries to loosely tie vague facts with a massive conspiracy theory.
"The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed,
for the vast masses of a nation are in the depths of their hearts more
easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad. The
primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a
big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies,
but would be ashamed to tell big lies." - Hitler.
So whats the bigger lie?
That government over spending and government mismanagement caused a systematic failure of our economy starting around the year 2005 that was the failure of several administrations and decades of congresses to resolve future problems that were obviously there. And that after all of that mismanagement, its taking time for the nation to turn around. We have had positive job growth for over 10 months now.
or......
That an entire huge left wing conspiracy theory has been ongoing since before the year 1961 to fool the American people into believing that a Kenyan born national who was indeed born in Indonesia, conspired with the entire state of Hawaii and their health department to fool us into thinking that he was an American citizen to win the White House in 2008 when he would ultimately implement the plan started before Kennedy took office and followed by both parties to destroy the country so that they could turn it into a communist nation.
Are you serious?
Why don't you spend some time disproving the words about Cloward and Piven? Maybe you should speak to the fact that they were at Columbia during the early Obama days, I guess she still is there. How about speaking to the fact that he admittedly spent too much time with socialists while at Columbia. How about speaking to the way he got into Harvard since his record at Columbia, we can't prove that without his records, didn't seem to be so great.
So much that you could speak about instead of the conspiracy that started sometime back then, if it existed. Your attempt at deflection would be so much better if you talked about something other than what left wingers talk about all the time without much proof. I don't know where the man was born. I don't know whose permission he traveled to Pakistan with in 1981? Do you know about whose passport?
The author of your linked drivel seems to have a very flexible relationship with truth. He's claiming to be a classmate of Obama's in this piece, and in other e-mail forwards, he claims to have no recollection of Obama at Coulbia at all. Isn't the neo-conservative mind a wondrous thing?
You bit right into the left wing argument. I failed to see where the man, Root, said that they were classmates but you did back off a bit from normal left handed crap of them being roommates. Thanks for that anyway. All I saw there was that he said Obama was there when he was. Root can prove that he got a degree or two from Columbia and Obama can't since his records are locked up tight. I wonder when he will allow the truth to be known.
Go back and read that whole link, even the part that Snopes says to go on with. I don't think you read any of this one but you have read some of the earlier ones, it seems.
I'm not sure what your agenda is this time with this link? Are you using Snopes to unwittingly vet your claim as true? All Snopes has done is vet the authenticity of the author, not the claims of the author. Given what I know about you albeit unvetted by snopes, it appears that you could benefit from a little Democratic Socialism. Please tell us all what Corporate Capitalism has done for you or yours. I wish Obama was on a mission to destroy entrenched crony capitalists and bring in a New World Order of Equitable Distribution. But he isn't. And Romney isn't going to do anything that Obama hasn't. Things won't be better for average Americans under Romney. Some Americans will feel better being shafted by a photogenic, white, male and the rest will feel better that America will be under a Republican rudder.
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Who vets snopes is what I want to know. Folks think they are the end all for some unknown reason.
Incidentally, it's against the TOS to make duplicate threads. How about showing some respect to the others on here. You're not a 10 year old. Follow the rules.
Why don't you spend some time disproving the words about Cloward and Piven? Maybe you should speak to the fact that they were at Columbia during the early Obama days, I guess she still is there. How about speaking to the fact that he admittedly spent too much time with socialists while at Columbia. How about speaking to the way he got into Harvard since his record at Columbia, we can't prove that without his records, didn't seem to be so great.
So much that you could speak about instead of the conspiracy that started sometime back then, if it existed. Your attempt at deflection would be so much better if you talked about something other than what left wingers talk about all the time without much proof. I don't know where the man was born. I don't know whose permission he traveled to Pakistan with in 1981? Do you know about whose passport?
Roy, as others have stated and shown, its lose facts that the President went to school, its loose facts that the President was indoctrinated with any kind communist revolution in mind, and it has yet to be proven that President Obama has done anything that Republicans themselves haven't been doing for the last 30 years.
So if your theory holds water, that means our entire government has been involved in a massive plot and we have already lost our country and should take up arms against it.
But that isn't what happened. Greed happened. Democrats wouldn't cut programs near and dear to their hearts. Republicans wouldn't cut programs near and dear to their hearts.
Both parties spent, both parties wasted, both parties are equally responsible to blame for the mess we are in today.
It is pure human greed and not thinking more then a few months ahead of us. Hey, we weren't evolved to live much past the age of 40 because we were going to die from disease, war, or countless other things until about 200 years ago. Millions of years of evolution gave us a short attention span, its why we have to plan so much. But government doesn't plan, they just get more and more greedy.
And its both parties, not just the President, and I don't think its willful on the count of most politicians, I think they are simply watching out for their own self interest, which is what we evolved to do mentally.
All human actions, and complex systems are revolve around three things. Food, shelter, sex. Everything that we are is wrapped up in those three things.
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