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Old 01-23-2012, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Evidence that it is a fraudulent document.
If they don't have it already, they're never going to get closer than a certified copy.

That's how prima facie evidence works.

 
Old 01-23-2012, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Birther or not, if he really is a natural born citizen he should have nothing to worry about.
 
Old 01-23-2012, 11:40 AM
 
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Birther or not, if he really is a natural born citizen he should have nothing to worry about.
Correct. Thus the puzzle over the stonewalling.
 
Old 01-23-2012, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Correct. Thus the puzzle over the stonewalling.
He was first asked to release his Birth certificate on June 9, 2008.

He released it four days later.

On what planet is that stonewalling?

 
Old 01-23-2012, 11:41 AM
 
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If they don't have it already, they're never going to get closer than a certified copy.
You don't believe that low level government officials could be persuaded by top officials to certify a fraudulent document? If not, you're very naive.
 
Old 01-23-2012, 11:42 AM
 
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Evidence that it is a fraudulent document.
with the COLB in hand it won't be any of the "photoshop" evidence from the current list of "experts".

the evidence would have to be of direct fraud happening........ over 50 years ago.
 
Old 01-23-2012, 11:43 AM
 
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You don't believe that low level government officials could be persuaded by top officials to certify a fraudulent document? If not, you're very naive.
again, that completely disregards the contemporaneous newspaper accounts.
 
Old 01-23-2012, 11:45 AM
 
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with the COLB in hand it won't be any of the "photoshop" evidence from the current list of "experts".

the evidence would have to be of direct fraud happening........ over 50 years ago.
That determination is left to the Georgia officials. They presumably will have done their homework on the various points of contention. If they find no cause for objection, then he will be on that state's ballot.
 
Old 01-23-2012, 11:55 AM
 
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They presumably will have done their homework on the various points of contention.
but what you're missing is the fact that all the "expert evidence" is based on the LFBC, not the COLB. unless they have specific information that the COLB being admitted is fake then........ their "evidence" is irrelevant and inadmissible.
 
Old 01-23-2012, 11:57 AM
 
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but what you're missing is the fact that all the "expert evidence" is based on the LFBC, not the COLB. unless they have specific information that the COLB being admitted is fake then........ their "evidence" is irrelevant and inadmissible.
If so, their efforts are in vain. I'm not sure you're right however. We will see on Thursday.
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