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Old 01-27-2012, 12:44 PM
 
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It wasn't an opinion; it was a statement of fact ...from the source.
Which demonstrates that your definition of "fact" is at odds with reality.
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:48 PM
 
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And the only SCOTUS definition of such is this:Minor v. Happersett

Even Ankeny v. Daniels acknowledged that WKA was NOT ruled a natural born citizen, and Obama doesn't even meet the standards SCOTUS ruled on in WKA. Obama's father was never domiciled in the U.S.
Of course he was. He didn't get on a plane and leave the country at the end of day when classes were over. He went to sleep under a roof that sheltered a building constructed on American soil. That's domiciled. And if you're going to bring up permanent domicile--then remember that Wong's parents moved back to China. So their domicile certainly wasn't permanent.
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:48 PM
 
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Oh look!!

They did!!
Nope. Another erroneous activist judge opinion.

The Civil Rights Act (on which the 14th Amendment is based according to the Senate Judiciary Committee) very clearly states:
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"Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States"
Civil Rights Acts of 1866, 1870, 1871, 1875

Cue HistorianDude calling the Senate Judiciary Committee liars in ...3 ...2 ...1

As I said... If you feel so strongly about this and you want Obama to be eligible, you can work to try to Amend the Constitution. In fact, there have been no less than 24 attempts to do so since the late 19th century, and there have been several within the last decade:
//www.city-data.com/forum/22532204-post76.html

You'd be fighting an uphill battle, though. NONE of the attempts to Amend the Constitution to allow someone other than a natural born citizen to be Constitutionally eligible to serve as POTUS or VPOTUS have succeeded. Not a one.
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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It wasn't an opinion; it was a statement of fact ...from the source.
And SCOTUS decision still trumps it.
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:49 PM
 
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It's not my opinion; it's historical fact. I've already provided documenting links.
No, it's your interpretation of history. Your interpretation of what others meant.

And it's contrary to what is the accepted definition of "natural-born citizen." And that's current and relevant fact that trumps anything you dream up.
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:49 PM
 
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Nope. Another erroneous activist judge opinion.
It was a 6-2 decision, Einstein.

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Old 01-27-2012, 12:49 PM
 
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And SCOTUS decision still trumps it.
SCOTUS decisions can be overturned. The Constitution cannot; it can only be Amended.
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:49 PM
 
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Wow. You still don't get it. No wonder so much of the country has been duped.
Coming from someone whose side has lost...every...single...time.

A birther calling other people duped......that's some rich irony there.

Still haven't come up with a rational answer to anything I asked...just obfuscation and deflection.

Any news on that "Default Judgement?"
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:52 PM
 
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It was a 6-2 decision, Einstein.
All six judges wrote the opinion? Really?

My source says only Gray wrote it.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:54 PM
 
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Coming from someone whose side has lost...every...single...time.
On procedural rulings, not on the merits of the cases.

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Still haven't come up with a rational answer to anything I asked...just obfuscation and deflection.
Unlike you, I don't subscribe to the false left/right dichotomy. I've already explained why...
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What makes you think there's any difference between the right and the left?

Seriously... take a look at what has happened to our country under the leadership of both. Bush: record deficits, record debt, crony capitalism. Obama: even higher record deficits, even higher record debt, Wall Street banksters' puppet. Both: erosion of our Constitutional rights in the name of 'national security.'
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