Who was Che Guervara? REALLY (activist, deaths, high school, compare)
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Anyway, so one cannot embrace extreme right-wing/libertarian politics and be and atheist?
One set of rolled eyes, coming back at ya!
BTW, it seems that a lot of people think that the "McVeigh was an atheist!" claim to be right-wing FUD. I'm inclined to agree. It doesn't matter though, because his politics were obviously extreme right-wing.
I wonder, does the OP and his 'mentor' not understand that they are the ones who, by dwelling on what might have been, give Che and his ilk a platform and importance that he/they never had in life?
I know they think that they are performing a public service, but, seriously, sometimes it really is better to leave the slime at the bottom of the pond out of sight.
It's not the people who are sick of seeing Che tee shirts that
are keeping him "alive," it's the useful idiots wearing the shirts.
It's not the people who are sick of seeing Che tee shirts that
are keeping him "alive," it's the useful idiots wearing the shirts.
And why do you care so much? Letting a tiny minority affect you so much is just giving them power over you. It isn't like every other liberal wears the shirts, for Pete's sake. It's usually actors or musicians looking for attention - and you're giving them exactly that.
I don't understand why you get so wound up over what extremists think. Only extremists adulate Guevara. Most mainstream liberals (whom you refer to as "these people") don't. In reality, all you're doing his is projecting a minority's view onto a very large and diverse group (liberals) which consists of millions of Americans from all different walks of life. Many of whom probably don't even know who Guevara is.
Some extremists support(ed) what Tim McVeigh did. Are all conservatives like Tim McVeigh?
Nice try to deflect the topic of the thread but you have failed, as far as I am concerned. If you had troubled yourself to watch that video I linked you would know what I am talking about and not what the lefties are howling about. Now you, like all those lefties, don't show much knowledge about the link so you are off topic.
I don't remember being taken to task by you so let me tell you a small part of what was discussed in that link. Che and his friends had a huge pile of explosives that they wanted to use to destroy Macy's, Gimbels and another department store in NYC along with Grand Central Station. It was planned for the day after Thanksgiving in 1962. Now about 50,000 people used to hit Macy's on that day annually although nobody knew about Black Friday back then. See if you can compute how many people may well have been killed if the FBI hadn't caught them.
I guess you really didn't know any of this, did you? Watch the link and see if you learn anything new. The others refuse to waste any time learning things like this. Really most of the lefties who flew in their deflection planes don't think so poorly about Che as i do. He was, after all, a seriously communist bastard.
Anyway, so one cannot embrace extreme right-wing/libertarian politics and be and atheist?
One set of rolled eyes, coming back at ya!
BTW, it seems that a lot of people think that the "McVeigh was an atheist!" claim to be right-wing FUD. I'm inclined to agree. It doesn't matter though, because his politics were obviously extreme right-wing.
Bill I bet that you fail to know that the Nazis in Germany started out as Socialists. After all, NAZI stands for National Socialist Party. It was socialism that Hitler convinced people he believed in to get elected, don't you know?
Bill I bet that you fail to know that the Nazis in Germany started out as Socialists. After all, NAZI stands for National Socialist Party. It was socialism that Hitler convinced people he believed in to get elected, don't you know?
Nice try to deflect the topic of the thread but you have failed, as far as I am concerned. If you had troubled yourself to watch that video I linked you would know what I am talking about and not what the lefties are howling about. Now you, like all those lefties, don't show much knowledge about the link so you are off topic.
I don't remember being taken to task by you so let me tell you a small part of what was discussed in that link. Che and his friends had a huge pile of explosives that they wanted to use to destroy Macy's, Gimbels and another department store in NYC along with Grand Central Station. It was planned for the day after Thanksgiving in 1962. Now about 50,000 people used to hit Macy's on that day annually although nobody knew about Black Friday back then. See if you can compute how many people may well have been killed if the FBI hadn't caught them.
I guess you really didn't know any of this, did you? Watch the link and see if you learn anything new. The others refuse to waste any time learning things like this. Really most of the lefties who flew in their deflection planes don't think so poorly about Che as i do. He was, after all, a seriously communist bastard.
I agree that Guevara was a piece of crap - I just don't see how it relates to current events. So some dummy wants to wear his t-shirt, it's his constitutional right, and it's not going to lose me any sleep. I'll sleep just fine knowing that he is a jackass.
This is decades old news man, and a few dipsticks in stupid t-shirts doesn't reflect on anybody else but themselves. So if you're trying to make a statement about all liberals, you're failing.
Lastly, there's no need to lecture me about Guevara's history. I probably more more about that topic than you could ever hope to.
Last edited by CaseyB; 01-22-2012 at 05:35 AM..
Reason: off topic
Anyway, so one cannot embrace extreme right-wing/libertarian politics and be and atheist?
One set of rolled eyes, coming back at ya!
BTW, it seems that a lot of people think that the "McVeigh was an atheist!" claim to be right-wing FUD. I'm inclined to agree. It doesn't matter though, because his politics were obviously extreme right-wing.
What was McVeigh's Conservative view, can you give an example? What part of his action said, "that's a conservative" to you?
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