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I used to be pretty accepting of the fact that people fall on hard times, & therefore could use a little help.
That opinion had changed, basically because of,where I live & work....it's shocking to see so many people on foodstamps. And they're not even humble about it- they brag how easy it is go get on the program, & nobody checks to verify anything.
Now that I see how my taxes are being pi$$ed away, it actually infuriates me at times.
I used to be pretty accepting of the fact that people fall on hard times, & therefore could use a little help.
That opinion had changed, basically because of,where I live & work....it's shocking to see so many people on foodstamps. And they're not even humble about it- they brag how easy it is go get on the program, & nobody checks to verify anything.
Now that I see how my taxes are being pi$$ed away, it actually infuriates me at times.
If you aren't talking about cutting defense, social security, or medicare then you aren't ready to have a serious conversation about spending.
If you aren't talking about cutting defense, social security, or medicare then you aren't ready to have a serious conversation about spending.
I think some defense spending needs to be revised and we need to look at out own resources, not at countries who save their money to destroy the U.S. Cutting all defense will only leave us more open to terror, taking care of our own borders should be priority and it isn't. If you think kick back and let the world go around as some in the world plan our demise, you might want to move to a country that doesn't like us.
Social Security and Medicare do more to help the actual poor than those on food stamps claiming Obama phones. Those having how many children with how many men, how many men walking away from their responsibility? Why should these people NOT work?
If one has worked and put into SS one should get it back......some of these Food Stamps recipients have never worked and they are the ones who are draining the SS & medicare system, money mismanaged.
I think some defense spending needs to be revised and we need to look at out own resources, not at countries who save their money to destroy the U.S. Cutting all defense will only leave us more open to terror, taking care of our own borders should be priority and it isn't. If you think kick back and let the world go around as some in the world plan our demise, you might want to move to a country that doesn't like us.
I didn't say cut all US defense spending. What I said is if people want to discuss spending and aren't talking about defense, medicare, or social security then they aren't willing to have a serious discussion.
Having said that, the USA spends far more than we need to. People will say "but what about the terrorists". Terrorists only target us because we can't mind our own business. Then they will say "we have a larger GDP so of course we spend more", but if you look at military expenditures as a percent of GDP we are at 4.7% - which is right in line with most poor or war torn countries. Peaceful countries spend around 2%.
Social Security and Medicare do more to help the actual poor than those on food stamps claiming Obama phones. Those having how many children with how many men, how many men walking away from their responsibility? Why should these people NOT work?
They do work, they just don't get paid much. Men are also required to pay child support, but paying child support does not disqualify someone from food stamps.
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Originally Posted by 3~Shepherds
If one has worked and put into SS one should get it back......some of these Food Stamps recipients have never worked and they are the ones who are draining the SS & medicare system, money mismanaged.
It would be nice in theory to get the money back, but let's face it. SS is welfare and an inter-generational wealth transfer from the young to the old and the return is below 2% for the vast majority of people. That's not to say that welfare for old people is a bad idea, but we should adopt a system similar to Australia. As it stands SS benefits will be cut by 28% in about 20 years because that program is not allowed to be deficit financed.
You seem to be under the impression that I have said things that I never said.
My claim is that if you want to talk about spending and you aren't talking about defense, SS, or medicare then you aren't willing to have a serious conversation. The reason for that is the big 3 consume the vast majority of our budget and the budget is driven by medicare. If all programs except for medicare are frozen our debt load will still increase because that program's expenses are growing faster than everything else
Furthermore, healthcare is largely just a cost and while it is necessary at times it doesn't usually have any ROI at the end of life. With that said, reducing the cost of healthcare delivery would allow the money that we do spend to go further than it does.
I think some defense spending needs to be revised and we need to look at out own resources, not at countries who save their money to destroy the U.S. Cutting all defense will only leave us more open to terror, taking care of our own borders should be priority and it isn't. If you think kick back and let the world go around as some in the world plan our demise, you might want to move to a country that doesn't like us.
Social Security and Medicare do more to help the actual poor than those on food stamps claiming Obama phones. Those having how many children with how many men, how many men walking away from their responsibility? Why should these people NOT work?
If one has worked and put into SS one should get it back......some of these Food Stamps recipients have never worked and they are the ones who are draining the SS & medicare system, money mismanaged.
True.
Foods stamps and Medicaid recipients can even be foreigners crossing the border illegally but pregnant or soon to be -- all they have to do is get over here in time for the birth and you've got a new household supported with food stamps and Medicaid and all kinds of other government handouts.
The elderly American citizens is a limited set of people. You have to have paid in for 10 years in order to get Medicare and Social Security -- they're not open to the whole world like food stamps and Medicaid are, and births don't add to the pool of recipients.
It's the very rapid growth of food stamps and Medicaid that are concerning because there are no limits at all on the numbers that can be added and they are for perfectly able bodied young people, so healthy they have sky high birth rates.
I think some defense spending needs to be revised and we need to look at out own resources, not at countries who save their money to destroy the U.S. Cutting all defense will only leave us more open to terror, taking care of our own borders should be priority and it isn't. If you think kick back and let the world go around as some in the world plan our demise, you might want to move to a country that doesn't like us.
If anti-terrorism is your objective, strategic bombers, mirv missiles, and nuclear arms do nothing against terrorists. There is no reason the U.S. needs to spend as much as nearly the entire rest of the world combined.
Social security is NOT welfare. It is a contract we pay for out of our own pockets to keep ourselves out of the gutter when our employers, for whom we've broken our bodies and our souls for all of our adult lives, jip us of our hard-earned retirement. Kept in good faith and with the full backing of the U.S. government, i.e., the American people. That used to mean something, even to conservatives.
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I thought you had to pay for that kind of stuff. What else can you get for free in this country???
