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Originally Posted by harborlady
Speaking of getting real lets see if we've got fake religious social engineered master plan down. You're against sex ed. You're against BC. You're against abortion. You're against single mothers. You're against anything but abstinence for all save for those who are married. No BC for them either whether or not they can actually afford to have another child or not. You expect that with all these irrational criteria imposed upon all others against their will or best interest, that everyones tax dollars ought to be squandered on a legislative pen and a gun that punishes half of the species for failing to live up to your precise and exacting ideals.
You are seeing just how demented all of this is, aren't you?
I personally am not, and I agree with you there being against the first two is counter-productive and shows more concern for prudishness/sexual purity than human rights which is all I care about.
Wow, talk about going to extremes to try to prove a point...
I'm more talking about 'abortion on demand.' That example would clearly be more complex. Here's another one for ya from 'real life':
18 year old girl has her third abortion in 3 years, all because her boyfriend and her didn't want to use contraception. Eighteen year old girl continues to use abortion as a contraception and at the same time expose herself to all kinds of risks, as well as killing more innocent babies.
Do you feel all women should be denied abortion rights because of what this girl does?
Wow, talk about going to extremes to try to prove a point...
I'm more talking about 'abortion on demand.' That example would clearly be more complex. Here's another one for ya from 'real life':
18 year old girl has her third abortion in 3 years, all because her boyfriend and her didn't want to use contraception. Eighteen year old girl continues to use abortion as a contraception and at the same time expose herself to all kinds of risks, as well as killing more innocent babies.
Only a moron would use abortion as BC. It's not easy or fun and even getting an annual exam is something most people would like to avoid. As nuts as it is I'm not going to live by rules made for morons.
Wow, talk about going to extremes to try to prove a point...
I'm more talking about 'abortion on demand.' That example would clearly be more complex.
That was an on demand abortion. She needed one and she got one without having to stand on bureaucratic lines to get government consent.
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Originally Posted by Trimac20
Here's another one for ya from 'real life':
18 year old girl has her third abortion in 3 years, all because her boyfriend and her didn't want to use contraception. Eighteen year old girl continues to use abortion as a contraception and at the same time expose herself to all kinds of risks, as well as killing more innocent babies.
1. Speaking of extremes! Do you know this individual, or is it hearsay? Sounds an awful lot like a fish tale concocted by RTL.
2. Presuming it were true, does she sound anything remotely resembling motherhood material if she would behave this recklessly with her own life, let alone unborn?
3. If you refused abortions for her and forced her to have the child, how long before she's in prison for abusing and/or murdering a child?
4. Presuming this woman was real and considering how incompetent she is at basic care for herself, doesn't she sound like a prime candidate for tubal ligation (which is a reversible procedure if she ever gets well enough to commit herself to maternity)?
5. Presuming this woman was real, is there some reason she's not getting the mental health care she's obviously in desperate need of, or do you still believe Andrea Yates was just lazy and faking profound mental illness?
6. Presuming this woman was real, is there some reason the whole planet ought to rearrange it's every movement to accommodate the behavior of one drunk on the road?
7. Presuming this woman was real, is there some reason the male in the equation isn't being held accountable for what is going on when the female is exhibiting signs of mental incompetence?
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Originally Posted by harborlady
That was an on demand abortion. She needed one and she got one without having to stand on bureaucratic lines to get government consent.
1. Speaking of extremes! Do you know this individual, or is it hearsay? Sounds an awful lot like a fish tale concocted by RTL.
2. Presuming it were true, does she sound anything remotely resembling motherhood material if she would behave this recklessly with her own life, let alone unborn?
3. If you refused abortions for her and forced her to have the child, how long before she's in prison for abusing and/or murdering a child?
4. Presuming this woman was real and considering how incompetent she is at basic care for herself, doesn't she sound like a prime candidate for tubal ligation (which is a reversible procedure if she ever gets well enough to commit herself to maternity)?
5. Presuming this woman was real, is there some reason she's not getting the mental health care she's obviously in desperate need of, or do you still believe Andrea Yates was just lazy and faking profound mental illness?
6. Presuming this woman was real, is there some reason the whole planet ought to rearrange it's every movement to accommodate the behavior of one drunk on the road?
7. Presuming this woman was real, is there some reason the male in the equation isn't being held accountable for what is going on when the female is exhibiting signs of mental incompetence?
Didn't know how literal you meant when you said 'real life', but she's based on what I've heard (yes 'hearsay if you must') on the net about real life people having multiple abortions. And I don't doubt that this does happen.
That's true, she probably isn't motherhood material. Yet if abortion wasn't so easily and readily available and Planned Parenthood weren't so eager to get her money she might've actually thought twice about contraception.
Similarly irresponsible behaviour happens all the time. Abortion is a 'fall back crutch' for countless thousands in the US especially. The US has one of the highest abortion rates in the world.
In Western Australia, abortion was only legal if it endangers the mother's life prior to 1998. Yet cases of mother's murdering their children are no more common than in the US.
You're right, the male should be held accountable. A lot of the time abortion suits men even more than women...
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Originally Posted by Annie53
Do you feel all women should be denied abortion rights because of what this girl does?
If by abortion rights you mean the right to get one because it's convenient, then yes, the medical profession should withhold it's vow to harm and protect, not kill.
Didn't know how literal you meant when you said 'real life', but she's based on what I've heard (yes 'hearsay if you must') on the net about real life people having multiple abortions. And I don't doubt that this does happen."""
SO? There are extremes in anything. It's not what real decisions should be based on....
"""That's true, she probably isn't motherhood material. Yet if abortion wasn't so easily and readily available and Planned Parenthood weren't so eager to get her money she might've actually thought twice about contraception.""
"might've"??? So take Choice away from all women because some bimbo "might've" ???
""Similarly irresponsible behaviour happens all the time."""
And ALWAYS has...it's part of human nature...you 're going to change that how?????
"" Abortion is a 'fall back crutch' for countless thousands in the US especially."""
GOOD! less unwanted poor kids!!
"""The US has one of the highest abortion rates in the world.
In Western Australia, abortion was only legal if it endangers the mother's life prior to 1998. Yet cases of mother's murdering their children are no more common than in the US.
You're right, the male should be held accountable. A lot of the time abortion suits men even more than women...
If by abortion rights you mean the right to get one because it's convenient, then yes, the medical profession should withhold it's vow to harm and protect, not kill.
Spoken like a true mysogynist.......carrying a pregnancy and giving birth is nothing more than an inconvenience.
Yeah, morning sickness is way worse than getting your skull crushed like a grape.
There is a lot more to it than morning sickness, many health risks, loss of income, more expenses, permanent, not so nice, changes to the body.
You can't compare a fetus to a person. A fetus does not know, feel or care that it was aborted.
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