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Old 01-22-2012, 06:32 PM
 
Location: NC
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The OP seems to want people to die.
This is the second thread he's started today wanting to abolish food stamps and help for the poor.
That's quite a leap.
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Old 01-22-2012, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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I'll use you as my example, but a solid half of the responses here so far have been, "we'll lose jobs."

Modern research disagrees. Sure, you can dig up old articles from the 1980's and earlier, which might support you. The last twenty plus years of research into the effects of minimum wage laws have been overwhelmingly positive. There is increased teenage unemployment--not neccessarily because they are being fired, but rather, because they don't need to work. Our children and teens have pushed back everything several years: marriage, kids, careers, moving out, major purchases, etc, but we still work them as early as possible.

The minimum wage law is supposed to ensure that people working can live off the wages they make--honest work deserves honest pay. We've lost that in the past thirty years due to skyrocketing executive pay, and plateaued worker pay.
Recent events prove it, The last minimum wage increase was the straw that broke the camel's back. Go back the these last round of minimum wages increases and look at unemployment rates going up and the cost of living going up by the same percentage.
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Old 01-22-2012, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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I live in Seattle. Know the result of our minimum wage being so high? Everything costs more, and the "working poor" still complain that they don't make enough.
That's very common amongst this group of people. They get free cell phones, health care, rent, cash assistance and the list goes on and on.. People who have never worked for what they have or lost what they worked hard for will never be able to appreciate what they have. It's sad really and what's worse their own party put them in this exact position. Until liberals realize life is not a free ride on the backs of hard working Americans will always be a us verses them. I'm obviously not a liberal but Clinton and his welfare reform at least tried to address this. It has always amazed me that the party of the working man so easily enslaves its people instead of lifting them up.
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:42 PM
 
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Washington State and the City of San Francisco have raised the minimum wage up to nearly $10 an hour. What impact has this had on the amount of working poor? Would raising the minimum wage up to $12 eliminate many of the working poor? Would it save the government money because less people would be eligible for food stamps and earned income tax credits?
I think it may FORCE greedy employers to start paying what they should have been all along. Fulltime factory jobs around here are typically in the $8-9 range. That's a JOKE! They have been getting away with it for years because of the poor economy. Skilled labor jobs are in the $12-$15 average range now. This has been going on since 911. Someone should break their b*lls about it! It's NOT 1989 anymore. Didn't you all hear? GREED-GREED-GREED!!!
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:49 PM
 
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I think it may FORCE greedy employers to start paying what they should have been all along. Fulltime factory jobs around here are typically in the $8-9 range. That's a JOKE! They have been getting away with it for years because of the poor economy. Skilled labor jobs are in the $12-$15 average range now. This has been going on since 911. Someone should break their b*lls about it! It's NOT 1989 anymore. Didn't you all hear? GREED-GREED-GREED!!!
Wrong.. It only forces more employers to leave the country which further lowers the aveage wage. Why the hell do you think wages keep getting lower while minimum wage rises?
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:56 PM
 
Location: NJ
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"It's NOT 1989 anymore."

True, thanks to logistics, the world is an employers available workforce. You no longer hold them hostage, and for that reason, unskilled labor is now paid like unskilled labor. The gap b/w lower skilled manufacturing and McD's was too large, for too long, and made the workforce soft in the process. Now both employer and emplouee are free to choose their best deal..anywhere.
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:57 PM
 
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Wrong.. It only forces more employers to leave the country which further lowers the aveage wage. Why the hell do you think wages keep getting lower while minimum wage rises?
The same jobs paid $20 twenty years ago. Those are all gone. The deadbeats come in for the roasting! A licensed electrician, plumber etc is worth $12-$15 per hour? They charge the customer $100+ per hour. Someone is getting fat and it's not the guy with the brains!
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:57 PM
 
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Make minimum wage $100,000 a year!

That would be VERY good for the economy!

Bunch of idiots.
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:59 PM
 
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Some $140 per hour! Do the math!
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:06 PM
 
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Raising the minimum wage to $12 per hour sounds wonderful in theory, but it would cause two things that wouldn't be so wonderful - inflation and job losses.
Walmart can afford it.

I understand that small businesses can't afford to pay that much, but any huge corporation as successful as Walmart can afford to pay all of their employees at least $10/hour.
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