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Old 01-22-2012, 09:08 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Speleothem View Post
C'mon man!
That's just pathetic.
You really think like that?
Not all right-wingers are like that, but many are.

When Ron Paul was asked if people without health insurance should be left to die in the street, many in the Republican audience yelled, "Yeah!"
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:09 PM
 
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"It's NOT 1989 anymore."

True, thanks to logistics, the world is an employers available workforce. You no longer hold them hostage, and for that reason, unskilled labor is now paid like unskilled labor. The gap b/w lower skilled manufacturing and McD's was too large, for too long, and made the workforce soft in the process. Now both employer and emplouee are free to choose their best deal..anywhere.
You get out of that with a clause that 40+ hours per week must be worked. McD's and the likes don't work their people that many hours. Maybe 20 for a ball park. Anyway you slice it, the guy who had to go through a five year apprenticeship, any additional schooling/training, or holds a license is worth more than that. Tool and die is around $10-$12. Are you fing kidding me? Anyone who argues has to be a suit!
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:10 PM
 
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Charity is for the poor, not help from the government, Stop food stamps and welfare.Let it be handled by charity.
Ha! And what happens when the charities run out of money?!
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:10 PM
 
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Walmart can afford it.

I understand that small businesses can't afford to pay that much, but any huge corporation as successful as Walmart can afford to pay all of their employees at least $10/hour.
I agree! Or GET OUT!!
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Raise the minimum wage to $12 an hour and poof no more working poor!

nope

raise the min wage to 12, and watch millions more LOSE THEIR JOBS and the rest face HIGHER PRICES FOR EVERYTHING
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:13 PM
 
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Until liberals realize life is not a free ride on the backs of hard working Americans will always be a us verses them. I'm obviously not a liberal but Clinton and his welfare reform at least tried to address this. It has always amazed me that the party of the working man so easily enslaves its people instead of lifting them up.
Give us a break. You guys don't want to lift people up. You want to beat them down. Your theory is that if you make people suffer, you'll force them to make more money - somehow. It's not realistic.
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Walmart can afford it.

I understand that small businesses can't afford to pay that much, but any huge corporation as successful as Walmart can afford to pay all of their employees at least $10/hour.
They would have to let some employees go and/or raise prices.
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:25 PM
 
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They would have to let some employees go and/or raise prices.
Start with the kid in the back who has his thumb up his *** most of the time. I can't find him with the keys when I need him anyway.
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:32 PM
 
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They would have to let some employees go and/or raise prices.
I have a better idea: Lower the salaries of those who are making the most, and raise the wages of those making less than $10/hour.
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:33 PM
 
Location: NJ
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SandboxQ, Yes, I'm a suit, and the supply/demand curve has reset the wages to what you are seeing now. But you are not a hostage; anyone can turn down any job they feel isn't paying enough. So what is the problem? Disliking the market rate does not make it different. They are offering $9 for unskilled labor because people are taking it. We have casual, off and on temps at several facilities, who make about $9.50 WHEN they are called in. Most of the time, the facilities need them less than 20 hours/wk on average, and the same temps have been available for almost a year now. That should tell all of us its still a better option than forgoing $9.50 per hour, even p/t, w/o benefits.
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