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Old 01-23-2012, 11:06 AM
 
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That image alone, with him standing in front of the Stars-and-Bars, is enough to discredit him as a serious candidate for the presidency. Whatever rational argument he makes, this shows he has no sense of tact or propriety. Where/when was this recorded?
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Only liberals are dumb enough to criticize the concept of secession, while failing to realize we seceded from the British Empire.
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:12 AM
 
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Only liberals are dumb enough to criticize the concept of secession, while failing to realize we seceded from the British Empire.
Coming from someone who lists their location as "Occupied Virginia", why does this comment not surprise me? The South lost; get over it.
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Does this really surprise anyone with the long history of those newsletters?

More BS playing to those who believe The Lost Cause of the South.



The opening shots in the Civil war were fired on Friday, April 12, 1861, at 4:30 a.m. at Fort Sumter.

It was championed by the confederate troops and the commanding officers at the time.

Don't try to revise history when it takes seconds to debunk.
why are you revising history

say the first shot(of the civil war) was actually the Firing on the Union Ship "Star of the West" off Morris Island January 10, 1861.

First Shot of the Civil War
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:20 AM
 
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uhm the civil war was about states rights....not slavery....slavery was only a PART of the states rights
You mean states ratts right? Isn't that how they pronounce it down in the deep south....
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:21 AM
 
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Coming from someone who lists their location as "Occupied Virginia", why does this comment not surprise me? The South lost; get over it.
They'll never get over it. They change the truth one generation at a time. In 100 years it will be that the South won but changed on their own.
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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why are you revising history

say the first shot(of the civil war) was actually the Firing on the Union Ship "Star of the West" off Morris Island January 10, 1861.

First Shot of the Civil War
So we have the shots fired at Fort Sumter which is placed in the history books since the event, taught in schools, and held by historians as the first shot of the Civil War...or we have a guy who owns a website asserting what the first shot of war was firing at the Star of the West.

Yeah, I think I will go with the overwhelming weight of more then a century of history, and people who spend their lives studying it, instead of what you seem to think is true because it's posted on a single website.

Thanks.
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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John Brown wasn’t an agent of the federal government. He decided on his own to take up arms against a corrupt system. I was always taught that Henry Farley a Confederate officer fired the first shot. But whatever is convenient for you right.

I don’t believe the North was wrong at all. It was the other way around.



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uhm the first 'shot' was by the north in 1859...browns raid


btw, I am a northerner, and my family faught for the Union..my ancestor was the Assistant Sec of war, and my other ancestor was a Union MG at gettysburg


the north was wrong to try to FORCE its agenda on the southern states..we lost more americans in that war than ANY OTHER WAR COMBINED
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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So we have the shots fired at Fort Sumter which is placed in the history books since the event, taught in schools, and held by historians as the first shot of the Civil War...or we have a guy who owns a website asserting what the first shot of war was firing at the Star of the West.

Yeah, I think I will go with the overwhelming weight of more then a century of history, and people who spend their lives studying it, instead of what you seem to think is true because it's posted on a single website.

Thanks.
and WHY was there shots on ft sumter....because the NORTH attacked and TOOK it.......On December 26th 1860 U.S. Major-General Robert Anderson moves his troops from Ft. Moultrie, in Charleston, South Carolina, and takes over Ft. Sumter.

face it the north was the agressors
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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uhm the civil war was about states rights....not slavery....slavery was only a PART of the states rights
A BIG part of slavery rights issue at the time. And it shouldn’t have been, considering the foundation to abolish slave trade was laid via the US Constitution in 1789.
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