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Old 01-24-2012, 02:05 AM
 
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You must be joking with this inquiry. The last time we had a Republican president, the country was in a free-fall. Republicans stink. This country works best when Republicans have no say in Congress, absolutely are not in the White House, and when the Supreme Court leans Left. It does great when liberal California is thriving, not when conservative Texas is.

Even suggesting that a Republican be president hurts the country. Get serious.
AMEN! Seriously! The GOP is just offering us career politicians with Newt or a corporate raider in Romney who tells us "Corporations are people" too! Republicans favor business while the Dems favor people.

 
Old 01-24-2012, 02:26 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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If you call the 8 years of tyrannical dictatorship under Bush normal, you need to see a shrink. That was probably the worst decade in American history followed closely by the Nixon decade.
Please describe how there was "tyrannical dictatorship"
when Bush had approval from Congress for practically everything.

(I really don't expect an answer.)
 
Old 01-24-2012, 02:31 AM
 
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When Obamacare is repealed, it will be a start.
 
Old 01-24-2012, 05:15 AM
 
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Nice slick, underhanded way of saying "Globalization is the lesser of two evils over Corporatism"

Even though they correlate....
Correlation is not causation.

Globalization creates wealth for "Americans." The problem is that it creates wealth for American corporations , at the expense of the working lives of many Americans. So free trade is a net win, but creates domestic imbalances which need to be ironed out.

That alone is fine, but when you throw in all the "goodies" that corporations get, like tax breaks and easier access to Fed money -- you know what I'm talking about, all the "Job Creator" bull**** -- this crowds out the common person's ability to compete in terms of competition (entrepreneurship) and better wages. Big guys get bigger, everyone else gets smaller.

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I don't understand how you can discern what one party has done from the other in the last 30 years or so. There is tons of overlap.
well, here's my perception: Say you have an idea that passes into law. Usually it is the idea of Party A, and Party A wages such a successful propaganda campaign that they "shame" many members of Party B into supporting it.

that pattern seems to describe "how things get done in washington."
 
Old 01-24-2012, 05:33 AM
 
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In reply to the OP: It's difficult for the dems to have a "normal" presidency that doesn't have distractions when the Republicans obstruct and attack. Clinton was impeached for lying about getting a blow job. Obama has been assailed from the beginning with accusations that he was born in Kenya and is a radical. In Obama's cased the allegations are unhinged and false but the conservative base eat's up the notion that he, like Clinton, was not a legitimate President.

Reagan, H.W. Bush and Bush had cooperation in Congress -- they did not get everything they wanted to be sure, but they had an opposition that was willing to move forward. Clinton had Gingrich -- that led to a government shut down which in turn set the stage for Clinton defeating Dole. Then the Republicans decided on impeachment. I expect that if Obama wins a second term, the Republicans will look for a reason to impeach. Their recent behavior (let's have our first vote in the House be a resolution not to raise the debt ceiling -- which is meaningless, of course, because the debt ceiling was already raised) would indicate that they would rather see the ruin of the country than work with the democrats.
 
Old 01-24-2012, 05:39 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default Do you feel America will get back to normal with a Republican president back in the White House?

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Whenever a Democrat has been president in my lifetime, somehow it always feels like a distraction or aberration of some kind. That's been the case with Carter, Clinton and Obama. Somehow, those presidencies didn't feel "normal" or "right".

Do you think that when a Republican gets elected, then America will once again return to its core values?

The last time I felt that way was when Reagan was in office.

The two GOP presidents since then both left office with unresolved middle east wars and the economy in shambles. And that didn't "feel right" to me.

YMMV

 
Old 01-24-2012, 08:52 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Whenever a Democrat has been president in my lifetime, somehow it always feels like a distraction or aberration of some kind. That's been the case with Carter, Clinton and Obama. Somehow, those presidencies didn't feel "normal" or "right".

Do you think that when a Republican gets elected, then America will once again return to its core values?

Which america? My part of america, largely, still possess those values. White liberal americans do not. Some black americans do, some do not. Mexican americans may or may not, mexican citizens now occupying much of america seem to possess "mexican" values far different from my own. American gays seem to have their own core values different from any of the above groups. Welcome to multicultural america. A republican president cannot change that.
 
Old 01-24-2012, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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There are actually wackos out there who believe the country is on the right track with Obama in office. You expect logical and honest answers here?

HA! This should get good.
There are actually wackos out there and on C-D who think putting a republican in office will make everything perfect!!!!
 
Old 01-24-2012, 08:59 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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AMEN! Seriously! The GOP is just offering us career politicians with Newt or a corporate raider in Romney who tells us "Corporations are people" too! Republicans favor business while the Dems favor people.


And yet mr obama is receiving more money than god from corporations, some of whom like GE that are shipping american jobs overseas faster than you can say "oh crap." Tell me, just what "people" do you think mr obama is going to favor? Solyndra should have been a "heads up" for you people.




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Old 01-24-2012, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Please describe how there was "tyrannical dictatorship"
when Bush had approval from Congress for practically everything.

(I really don't expect an answer.)
That was because both the house and the senate where controlled by repubs thru most of his 2 terms.
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