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Old 01-23-2012, 11:53 PM
 
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Sanrene you're always drawing straws here. How about you start posting things which you can actually back up. Your emotions tell you Democrats bad so you just look at anything to whine about. It's sort of sad. Someone needs to get out of the house more.
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Old 01-24-2012, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Why do the Repugnantcan'ts get so mad when President Obama takes a page from their playbook?
What page would that be?

I thought he was the candidate that would change politics of usual? I think he would eschew crony capitalism. He's turning out to be the master of both.

Of course, there were many that warned you that in 2008. Warned you that he was as fake as a 3 dollar bill.
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Question lol...

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I thought he was the candidate that would change politics of usual?
If he isn't changing anything why are you so upset?

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Old 01-24-2012, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Why do the Repugnantcan'ts get so mad when President Obama takes a page from their playbook?

Question: When you were five and got caught with your hand in the cookie jar did the "but he did it too defense" work well for you then?

Of course Obozo gets a free pass for the exact same things that you scream about here as far as you're concerned. How ironic.....not
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Old 01-24-2012, 09:58 AM
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Default Buffet to profit from keystone pipeline rejection?

Could it be warren stands to make money off this? Buffett
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:16 AM
 
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Absolutely.
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:17 AM
 
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Thread here: //www.city-data.com/forum/polit...-keystone.html
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:53 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Buffet and T Boone Pickens. Pigs in a trough. Would probably kill their mamma pig if there was a cobb of corn left to rutt over.
Wow...suddenly you've become an anti-capitalist "socialist". What's up with that?

And I thought rich people didn't hang out with Obama because he hates the wealthy and they hate him.
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Sale Creek, TN
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Why do the Repugnantcan'ts get so mad when President Obama takes a page from their playbook?
Why aren't the Democrats upset when President Obama, "takes a page from their playbook"? I'll answer that for you; it's ok when it's "our" guy doing it.
Partisan hacks on both sides is what's wrong today.
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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I call BS.

700,000 barrels at 42 gallons per barrel is 29,400,000 gallons.

About 4,000 gallons per tank car (could be a little more or a little less -- it isn't so much gallons, but the weight -- so it depends on specific gravity/density assuming the very heavy oil which is like molasses is cut with petroleum distillates for transport -- generally figure 22,500 pounds per car).

So, that's about 7,350 cars per day.

No freaking way.

I used to work as a utility pumper and two of us on 2nd shift would do maybe 32-40 cars per shift and we had two double spurs and were running 4" hose from the car to the tanks in the tank farm. Vent the car, cut the seal with the bolt cutters, crack the hatch and drop the thief to get a sample. Once you collect all of your samples, you run them up to the QC lab and wait for them to call and give you the serial numbers on the cars you can pump. Then run the hose from the car to the pump, and then another to the switching station and start pumping.

With high volume/high velocity pumps it takes a couple of hours to drain a rail car, and if you're pumping into a tank, back-pressure will slow that eventually (unless you're pumping over-the-top). Then decouple your hoses and move onto the next car.

Even if you're using a pit (dumping into an underground tank from above it) it's still 90 minutes or more, plus QC, jogging the cars etc.

Yes, I know it's three refineries (Premcor, Motiva and France's Total SA) but they aren't going to pump 2,450 cars per day at each refinery. That would be 100 rail cars per hour on average, and there's no facility on Earth that can do that.

Calling it...

Mircea
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