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Old 01-24-2012, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Florida
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A mindset, financial bondage and a lost art.
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Earth
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If marriage was a legal binding civil contract - and that's all - then conceivably, a father could marry his son or daughter, a group could marry each other, and a man could marry Apple or Wal-Mart (corporate persons). Heck, two corporations (again, corporate persons) could marry each other.
My bad.
Go marry that apple or business.
Don't know much about the law, do you?

How about trying that divorce through your fairy-tale tax exempt organization.
See how far that gets you.
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Old 01-24-2012, 09:42 PM
 
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In 99% of unions, marriage serves only to protect a woman and her children. It is a lose-lose scenario for 75-80% of men. Yet for some reason, we continue to pop the question. I think it's due to a need to acquire and possess.
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Old 01-24-2012, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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What is marriage?

Something Newt Gingrich doesn't give a $%%^ about.
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Old 01-24-2012, 09:49 PM
 
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A covenant between the man and woman couple taking the marriage vow and God. They not only make their vow to each other but also to their Creator as to their enduring fidelity to one another and to the sanctity of their vow and of their marriage. Of course as humans we too often fall short.
Then why can atheists get married and why did Protestants oppose marriage on Christian grounds?
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Old 01-24-2012, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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A covenant between the man and woman couple taking the marriage vow and God. They not only make their vow to each other but also to their Creator as to their enduring fidelity to one another and to the sanctity of their vow and of their marriage. Of course as humans we too often fall short.
Well...marriage existed before your capital G god, so you're probably not correct.
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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Most of you are describing marriage, not defining it.

Marriage must be defined before being debated. Otherwise, debating it is pointless.
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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The legal union between 2 consenting adults. It joins to as one with regards to taxes, insurance and other matters.

It also happens to have 60% of the people regret the action taken...but that's not a definition.
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Old 01-25-2012, 02:13 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Tax breaks.
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Modern marriage is about working together for a common go in a civil contract that states that you will share all assets with one another. Tax status is also important.
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Marriage is a legal binding civil contract.
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Lower car insurance premiums.
That's pretty much how I feel about it, at this point in my life. I've seen enough marriages fail to know it's not about "making a commitment for life," and I'm not religious enough to care about having G-d's permission - I mean, at 35 years old, I've fornicated without permission plenty of times by now. So I basically feel like marriage is about making it LEGAL, for the purposes of both financial benefits and protection for your children/family.
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:12 AM
 
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Marriage is a three-party contract between natural persons of legal capacity and the state, which acknowledges its consent to the marriage contract through the issuance of a license. Few persons realize that the state is a party to their marriage until they want to get divorced, which they consider a great inconvenience, not to mention the legal expense. However, the state has a legitimate, even compelling, interest in the incidents of the marriage, i.e., marital property rights, custody and care of minor children (whether born of the union or adopted), and obligations of support; which issues are subject to the jurisdiction of the several states based upon the parties’ residence or domicile.

There is no express provision in the Constitution granting a person the right of marriage; not that the framers thought marriage unimportant, but rather it is a right retained by the people under the Ninth Amendment, and power reserved to the several states or to the people under the Tenth Amendment. Marriage is strictly a matter of state (not federal) law. It is the recent instances of states recognizing same-sex marriage that has prompted the move to amend the Constitution to provide a definition of marriage as between a man and a woman; which would be an intrusion on states’ rights to govern marriage, and an unwarranted limitation on the liberty of the people.

The problem, perhaps, is the failure to differentiate between marriage as a religious rite, and its place as a secular institution of society. In this regard, efforts to legislate the morality of marriage will not add to its sanctity, and only detract from its social purpose by making a federal case out of it.
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