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Old 01-29-2012, 06:09 AM
 
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I didn't read the article but I know it is virtually impossible for a heterosexual male to get infected with HIV through vaginal sex. Have a nice day.
Oh dear.

That's probably what all those millions of men in Africa thought. Then when they did get HIV, they believed another myth - that raping a virgin baby girl would cure them.

Please educate yourself.
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Old 01-29-2012, 08:45 AM
 
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Your article is not from the WHO, it's from an online newspaper.
Here is the interview on the WHO website:

WHO | D for diagnosis and E for everything else


In some countries like the US there is a higher percentage of HIV/AIDs amongst MSM who have unprotected sex as well as Intravenous Drug Users etc, but worldwide, it's predominantly transmitted by heterosexual sex.

What I said doesn't go against anything said by the WHO.

The Global HIV/AIDS Pandemic, 2006

Women, HIV and AIDS
You said 75% of AIDS is spread through Hetrosexual sex, and that's not true. Not even close. And you have nothing to back it up.
Here's the direct quote from WHO, again:

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Kevin deCock, the head of the WHO's department of HIV/Aids said there will be no generalised epidemic of Aids in the heterosexual population outside Africa.
Dr deCock, an epidemiologist who has spent much of his career leading the battle against the disease, said understanding of the threat posed by the virus had changed. Whereas once it was seen as a risk to populations everywhere, it was now recognised that, outside sub-Saharan Africa, it was confined to high-risk groups including men who have sex with men, injecting drug users, and sex workers and their clients.
I think I'll trust someone who has spent 25 years researching over someone who makes up numbers on the internet.

Some experts place the risk of males getting HIV through hetrosexual sex in the US somewhere between 1 in 2 million to 1 in 5 million.

Obviously that doesn't mean anyone should be stupid. There many other dangerous STDs.
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Old 01-29-2012, 11:34 PM
 
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You said 75% of AIDS is spread through Hetrosexual sex, and that's not true. Not even close. And you have nothing to back it up.
Here's the direct quote from WHO, again:



I think I'll trust someone who has spent 25 years researching over someone who makes up numbers on the internet.

Some experts place the risk of males getting HIV through hetrosexual sex in the US somewhere between 1 in 2 million to 1 in 5 million.

Obviously that doesn't mean anyone should be stupid. There many other dangerous STDs.
The WHO quotation doesn't provide information on transmission rates of HIV, only that certain groups are "high-risk." Notably, sex-workers and their clients--many of whom are heretosexual couplings, are included in the high-risk category. They wouldn't include heterosexual sex couplings if it was, as you say, 1 in 2 million or less chance of contracting the virus.

Wikipedia lists the following as transmission rates.

Blood-transfusion is listed at 90%.
mother-child childbirth (et al) is 25%.
Drug use is 0.67%
Anal intercourse is between .065% to 1.7%
Vaginal intercourse is between .1% and .05%

None of those are anywhere close to 0.00000005% necessary to substantiate your claim.

The numbers come from a few different (http://ad-teaching.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/zbmed/LWW/gv023/00007435/00007435-200201000-00007.pdf - broken link) sources.
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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No, I am not wrong. I think you need to check your sources for honesty and integrity. Even wiki has let this report stay, but even if they were owned or managed by a biased source, I do know what I am talking about. Look at this.....



Gay-related immune deficiency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You are wrong and I'm not going to discuss epidemiology with someone who believes in chemtrails, New World Order, and HAARP causing earthquakes.
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Old 01-30-2012, 07:52 AM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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You are wrong and I'm not going to discuss epidemiology with someone who believes in chemtrails, New World Order, and HAARP causing earthquakes.
LOL
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Old 01-30-2012, 08:03 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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AIds was reportedly created by Military Scientist in Ft Dietrich Maryland in 1969 and gradually put out into the population as a means of population control and to do away with undesirables in Society. One of the first possible releases of the virus was in the 70's under the guise of a some sort of flu-pneumonia shot for East Village Gay Men.
'reportedly'?

the first confirmed death due to HIV infection was from a guy who died in 1959.

An African HIV-1 sequence from 1959 and implications ... [Nature. 1998] - PubMed - NCBI
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Old 01-30-2012, 08:45 AM
 
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AIDS had to originate somehow. If not by monkey sex, how?

AIDS is spread by anal sex with fluids and blood mixing.
In some cultures monkey meat is considered a delicacy. A wounded monkey bites someone trying to butcher it, the monkey is bleeding, the person is bleeding, blood transfer occurs?
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Old 01-30-2012, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Blood transmission, when a monkey bit somebody and both of them bled from the encounter? Just a guess, but it seems more logical than "monkey sex."
I just read an article from 2006 where the scientist was saying it could have jumped from chimps to humans during a hunting trip. Seems when humans hunt chimps, they do the butchering while still in the fields, with a lot of blood flying around. If the hunter had any open sores, they could easily have become infected.
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Old 01-30-2012, 09:00 AM
 
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In some cultures monkey meat is considered a delicacy. A wounded monkey bites someone trying to butcher it, the monkey is bleeding, the person is bleeding, blood transfer occurs?
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I just read an article from 2006 where the scientist was saying it could have jumped from chimps to humans during a hunting trip. Seems when humans hunt chimps, they do the butchering while still in the fields, with a lot of blood flying around. If the hunter had any open sores, they could easily have become infected.
Goes to show why eating animals so evolutionarily closely related to us (and not to mention cannibalism) is a bad idea.
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Old 01-30-2012, 09:06 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Are you serious? Does he not understand that animal to human transmission happened through a BITE, and that ANY sharing of blood or saliva can cause transmission of the disease, no matter who or how you're doing the sharing? I can't believe someone is that ignorant 30 years after the AIDS virus was discovered.
Well, that is the *official* story isn't it? I suppose you believe everything das government of Amerika (CDC, WHA, FDA) tells you.

20yrsinBranson
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