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It's the Hamilton Plan which was completely rejected by the Constitutional Convention because it was too much like the British Monarchy they had left behind. It was never even considered.
The Constitution was instead based on the Virginia Plan drafted by James Madison.
Somehow our resident Constitutional scholar missed that it was Hamilton's plan?
Somehow our resident Constitutional scholar missed that it was Hamilton's plan?
Well that would just be too inconvenient otherwise.
The simple fact was that the detailed Hamilton Plan was never actually even presented to the Convention. He did provide an oral outline on June 18, 1787 but it included no mention of any citizenship requirement for the presidency at all, and the Convention hated it for reasons already mentioned.
What IC quoted from is a more detailed written version that Hamilton later wrote out but never even submitted to the convention at all.
. We also include that if you're born to a US Citizen outside the US who lived in the US for at least 1 year of their life, then that child is a Natural Born Citizen.
Actually, it depends on what the law was at the time of birth.
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But don't let facts interrupt your delusions.
You've just demonstrated you're unaware of the actual facts.
But you are still running away from the actual question asked.
I'm not. YOU are. Provide proof of just one instance in which a person's natural born citizen status was not restored by the Federal Government under the circumstances I cited.
You've STILL been unable to do so.
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It's the Hamilton Plan which was completely rejected by the Constitutional Convention becauseit was too much like the British Monarchy they had left behind. It was never even considered.
The Constitution was instead based on the Virginia Plan drafted by James Madison.
HistorianDude is actually correct, for once. The version of the Constitution which required one to be "born a citizen of the United States" to be eligible for POTUS was rejected.
You're a broken record, and you rely on links wayyyy too much.
What an obvious tactic - post loads of links that do nothing to prove your claims
The link proves exactly what I've claimed. The Federal Government does in fact consider 'native born citizen' and 'natural born citizen' two different things.
The link proves exactly what I've claimed. The Federal Government does in fact consider 'native born citizen' and 'natural born citizen' two different things.
So, you admit you were lying when you claimed they also had a long record of acting on it?
HistorianDude is actually correct, for once. The version of the Constitution which required one to be "born a citizen of the United States" to be eligible for POTUS was rejected.
The link proves exactly what I've claimed. The Federal Government does in fact consider 'native born citizen' and 'natural born citizen' two different things.
Sorry, but no. Historian Dude has covered this.
I'll take "Beating my head on a brick wall" for $200, Alex.
I'm not. YOU are. Provide proof of just one instance in which a person's natural born citizen status was not restored by the Federal Government under the circumstances I cited.
You've STILL been unable to do so.
If HistorianDude is going to be obstinate and not answer your question, why don't you prove him doubly wrong on this and answer his? Provide a single example of the federal government treating people differently on the basis of being a native-born citizen versus being a natural born citizen.
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