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Old 02-14-2012, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Ask Michael Snyder.
LoL, figures. Michael Snyder is the lunatic behind The Economic Collapse idiotcy.

Frankly I wouldn't ask a misogynist who thinks it's okay for husbands to beat their wives, and women must stay married to wife beaters.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:10 AM
 
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The answer: there is a lot of long term structural unemployment for people that do not have the relevant skills needed in today's economy.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Thumbs up Because of Bush's GREAT RECESSION.

If the 'recovery' looks this bad - what happens when all of the borrowing stops?

who said the borrowing was stopping?

'If the economy is getting better, then why did new home sales in the United States hit a brand new all-time record low during 2011?

and why are sales of existing home up? Sales of Previously Owned U.S. Houses Finish 2011 on a High Note: Economy - Bloomberg

If the economy is getting better, then why are there 6 million less jobs in America today than there were before the recession started?

because companies are that are sitting on huge stacks of cash are not hiring the workers they need.

IE, if the banks hired the workers they needed we wouldn't have learned what "ROBO-SIGNING was.


If the economy is getting better, then why is the average duration of unemployment in this country close to an all-time record high?

see above.

If the economy is getting better, then why has the number of homeless female veterans more than doubled?

because of gaping holes in the "safety net", who is advocating cutting benefits???

If the economy is getting better, then why has the number of Americans on food stamps increased by 3 million since this time last year and by more than 14 million since Barack Obama entered the White House?

see above. because of Bush's GREAT RECESSION.

If the economy is getting better, then why has the number of children living in poverty in America risen for four years in a row?

see above. because of Bush's GREAT RECESSION.(better refine that one, Obama has only been in office 3 years and 1 month...)


If the economy is getting better, then why is the percentage of Americans living in “extreme poverty” at an all-time high?

see above. because of Bush's GREAT RECESSION.

If the economy is getting better, then why has the number of Americans living below the poverty line increased by 10 million since 2006?

see above. because of Bush's GREAT RECESSION.

If the economy is getting better, then why are 19 percent of all American men between the ages of 25 and 34 living with their parents?

see above. because of Bush's GREAT RECESSION.

When Barack Obama first took office, the number of “long-term unemployed workers” in the United States was approximately 2.6 million. Today, that number is sitting at 5.6 million.'

see above. because of Bush's GREAT RECESSION.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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isn't this a cut and paste job from another website? you didn't even add one word or thought of your own, isn't that a TOS violation Mods?

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If the 'recovery' looks this bad - what happens when all of the borrowing stops?

'If the economy is getting better, then why did new home sales in the United States hit a brand new all-time record low during 2011?



If The Economy Is Improving?. - BlackListedNews.com

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Old 02-14-2012, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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"So what is going to happen when the federal government stops injecting gigantic waves of borrowed money into the economy"

What was your alternative to raising the money stock?

I also must note the many fallacies in this thread:

'we'll be like Greece.' No, we won't. Greece is suffering because it doesn't have it's own currency.

'all the money went to the banks.' No, money supply went into the private economy.

'it's all about ridiculous spending' No, it's not. Most of the current deficit is a combination of reduced revenue and spending because we're in a severe economic downturn. End of story.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Florida
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If the 'recovery' looks this bad - what happens when all of the borrowing stops?

who said the borrowing was stopping?

'If the economy is getting better, then why did new home sales in the United States hit a brand new all-time record low during 2011?

and why are sales of existing home up? Sales of Previously Owned U.S. Houses Finish 2011 on a High Note: Economy - Bloomberg

If the economy is getting better, then why are there 6 million less jobs in America today than there were before the recession started?

because companies are that are sitting on huge stacks of cash are not hiring the workers they need.

IE, if the banks hired the workers they needed we wouldn't have learned what "ROBO-SIGNING was.


If the economy is getting better, then why is the average duration of unemployment in this country close to an all-time record high?

see above.

If the economy is getting better, then why has the number of homeless female veterans more than doubled?

because of gaping holes in the "safety net", who is advocating cutting benefits???

If the economy is getting better, then why has the number of Americans on food stamps increased by 3 million since this time last year and by more than 14 million since Barack Obama entered the White House?

see above. because of Bush's GREAT RECESSION.

If the economy is getting better, then why has the number of children living in poverty in America risen for four years in a row?

see above. because of Bush's GREAT RECESSION.(better refine that one, Obama has only been in office 3 years and 1 month...)


If the economy is getting better, then why is the percentage of Americans living in “extreme poverty” at an all-time high?

see above. because of Bush's GREAT RECESSION.

If the economy is getting better, then why has the number of Americans living below the poverty line increased by 10 million since 2006?

see above. because of Bush's GREAT RECESSION.

If the economy is getting better, then why are 19 percent of all American men between the ages of 25 and 34 living with their parents?

see above. because of Bush's GREAT RECESSION.

When Barack Obama first took office, the number of “long-term unemployed workers” in the United States was approximately 2.6 million. Today, that number is sitting at 5.6 million.'

see above. because of Bush's GREAT RECESSION.
the housing collapse is due to the democrats. Bush tried to stop it , Greenspan warned us of the housing bubble for years and the dems ignored it just like they are ignoring what inept Obama's agenda is eroding our tax base with his throwing away money on his pet green agenda.

The democrats will find out just what Beck was warning us of.. the inflation of food and gas. This will touch the poor and middle class first and it will not be pretty .

If one thinks Obama cares about the poor you are sadly mistaken. He would make sure the tax base would grow but no,his big government ideas are killing the economy. Our debt will eventually kill us and throw us into a major depression unlike any one has ever experienced.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:32 AM
 
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What will happen? There will be a surge of business failures and bankruptcy. What we are not being told is that more than half of major business is running on commercial credit with "second lien" financing that is in default. The banks know this, which is why they are not lending; they are sitting on the sidelines because they know the second shoe will drop. The nation will be awash with business bankruptcy filings (e.g., MF Global Holdings, Ltd.), the economic equivalent of a tsunami. With bankruptcy will come rising long-term unemployment, and finally the slide into economic depression. The failure of Congress to act responsibly will only accelerate the crisis pushing us over the brink. It has a cascading effect that the government’s intervention is desperately trying to stop - but more likely to only succeed in slowing its inexorable progress. It will be very, very ugly.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:42 AM
 
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If the 'recovery' looks this bad - what happens when all of the borrowing stops?

'If the economy is getting better, then why did new home sales in the United States hit a brand new all-time record low during 2011?





If The Economy Is Improving?. - BlackListedNews.com
Its not borrowed. Watch a towel in a drier to get an idea of what deficits and QE from the Fed does.

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Old 02-14-2012, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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According to some economists:

Debt = Money

Cut Debt = cut money

Cut money = Economic collapse on a worldwide basis.

Create more debt = more money = Recovery

So by creating much more debt we can avoid the collapse part.

I hope so.

BTW – This debt is not to ever be paid back as that would decrease the money supply and that would lead to collapse.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Our money from the tax base is going to OPEC, and to the Chinese and other countries as the tax base pays the bills on the interest of the money borrowed.. the United States can't at this time meet its bills. It has to keep borrowing money from China and other countries to cover all the bills. Obama's new budget still has us spending trillions and not having the money to cover the spending.. this will eventually result in more down grades if we don't get the spending down because we can't keep borrowing .

The banks are broke and the government has been propping the banks and the FDIC which is government money is covering the losses . If we really knew how bad it is we would beg Obama to stop spending on stupid projects he is pushing.

We will in the future all realize that America is no longer the nation it once was as we drift into more debt and benefits cut to the poor.
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