Obama 2008 Campaign Pledge of Uniting The Country: Epic FAILURE (parties, education, top 10)
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Obama did a poor job of uniting the USA, but did an awesome job uniting the Middle East against us. .
According to the Pew Research poll, what you claim is only true in Pakistan, where the U.S. is targeting terrorists, which I think is a good thing. Otherwise, what you say is not true.
You dont like the postings doesnt equate to strawman. Thats your problem.
You ignore the argument at hand, create a different argument, and then refute the argument you created... that's the definition of a strawman.
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WRONG... Obama, to the 99%, bc of the greedy 1% you cant succeed.
"Can't succeed", "life is worse" -- whatever. It doesn't change that you're saying it's class warfare b/c he's pitting one group against another.
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Obama doesnt at all address the fact that more than 1/2 of the 99% pays NO INCOME TAX AT ALL..
And? You've already established that he's setting up class warfare w/ his rhetoric, so that's a moot point.
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WRONG AGAIN.. government SHOULDNT BE DOING 1/2 of what it does to begin with.
How do you keep getting sidetracked?
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Remember, the GOP wants to starve people and push old ladies off a cliff. No where does the GOP believe the government have enough money.
Which is why they're trying to cut benefits to the poor, and rallying their base to support the cuts if they don't want Armageddon to happen in their personal lives. Class warfare.
According to the Pew Research poll, what you claim is only true in Pakistan, where the U.S. is targeting terrorists, which I think is a good thing. Otherwise, what you say is not true.
Note how many in Muslim nations blame the Jews.
Actually they are NOT targeting terrorists, but instead securing oil reserves. wake up. Obama is not spreading Democracy as you think.
I just stated a fact in the midst of all the garbage talk. he hasn't united the USA but he has united the Middle Eats. that's a fact.
not a thread jack at all.
United them in the understanding that they can determine their own futures, yes, that is a good thing
As for the US, we do not want to be united, not since the far-right decided that Politics is more important than the Nation.
United them in the understanding that they can determine their own futures, yes, that is a good thing
As for the US, we do not want to be united, not since the far-right decided that Politics is more important than the Nation.
don't alter my premise. I said I have a choice where to spend the $50,000 profit. Why are investors any more entitle to that dividend? Wouldn't it be wise to reward the workers that actually produced the profit?
No, you are changing the premise because we are discussing how obtaining wealth takes money out of the economy, not why investors are entitled to a dividend.
The point he's trying to make -- and the one you are stubbornly refusing to accept -- is that if he pays it out to investors and gives them an additional return on their investment at the expense of his employees, then he is giving his employees less power to be consumers. They're like rats running on a treadmill. If this happens at one company out of every twenty or so, maybe that's one thing, but if you have an entire company which encourages rewarding those who already have disposable income over those who do not, then you're essentially encouraging the death of consumption. And consumption is the life's blood of capitalism.
When you have millions of workers who are barely making enough to cover expenses, you have an economy of workers who don't have enough salary to consume things beyond their basic necessities. That's why taxing taking away their lower tax rates and forcing them to pay 'fair' taxes at 17 percent isn't really so fair, because they don't have that much extra to pay out anyway.
There are two ways that people can end up getting that excess buying power and drive consumer activity (which by the way is what drives business activity): They can either wait things out and hope they get a better-paying job, which is less and less likely in an economy that encourages 'plutonomics', or they can open up lines of credit and go into debt.
Since you guys cant follow along with the discussion, lets recap..
buzz said that people becoming wealthy causes others to be poor, then he goes on to sight an example of GIVING wealth to people. both you and buzz needs to try harder because if you give $50K to the investors, are you are not causing the workers to become poorer.. They hold the same wealth regardless of you giving money to investors or not because the money isnt the workers.
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