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Old 01-30-2012, 04:52 PM
 
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Thats because the Republican party just plays conservative, but they aren't really conservative. Conservatives really need their own party, separate from the Republican caucus.
Obviously. They're about to nominate Mitt Romney, which is a dead giveaway. Not that i needed his nomination to confirm what i already knew anyway.
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Obviously. They're about to nominate Mitt Romney, which is a dead giveaway. Not that i needed his nomination to confirm what i already knew anyway.
Two unfunded wars, increases in what was already the worlds most powerful and largest military, lowering taxes while increasing spending, medicare part D, no child left behind, Wall street deregulation, outlawing stem cell research, etc, etc, etc,


The record stands for itself.

The sad part? The same people that supported all of those things, now rail against Obama when he has done similar things.

Neither party represents me, so I will not vote for either. People say I'm "throwing away my vote" or "Voting for an independent is a vote for Obama", but you know what, whether you vote for twiddle dee, or twiddle dum, you've thrown away your vote either way.
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Old 01-30-2012, 05:00 PM
 
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Two unfunded wars, increases in what was already the worlds most powerful and largest military, lowering taxes while increasing spending, medicare part D, no child left behind, Wall street deregulation, outlawing stem cell research, etc, etc, etc,


The record stands for itself.

The sad part? The same people that supported all of those things, now rail against Obama when he has done similar things.

Neither party represents me, so I will not vote for either. People say I'm "throwing away my vote" or "Voting for an independent is a vote for Obama", but you know what, whether you vote for twiddle dee, or twiddle dum, you've thrown away your vote either way.
Fair enough.
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Old 01-30-2012, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Two unfunded wars, increases in what was already the worlds most powerful and largest military, lowering taxes while increasing spending, medicare part D, no child left behind, Wall street deregulation, outlawing stem cell research, etc, etc, etc,


The record stands for itself.

The sad part? The same people that supported all of those things, now rail against Obama when he has done similar things.

Neither party represents me, so I will not vote for either. People say I'm "throwing away my vote" or "Voting for an independent is a vote for Obama", but you know what, whether you vote for twiddle dee, or twiddle dum, you've thrown away your vote either way.
I don't think there are any candidates or Party that wholly represents my opinions. But the choice in my mind is, who more closely does. So I go with them. I would find it unconscionable to throw away my votes.
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Old 01-30-2012, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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This is so odd? Why is the left anxious to pick a fight with 54% of the population? These folks said the tax cut was worthless.
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Old 01-30-2012, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I don't think there are any candidates or Party that wholly represents my opinions. But the choice in my mind is, who more closely does. So I go with them. I would find it unconscionable to throw away my votes.
I am of the opinion that voting for either major parties candidate is doing just that, throwing away your vote.
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Old 01-30-2012, 05:06 PM
 
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This is so odd? Why is the left anxious to pick a fight with 54% of the population? These folks said the tax cut was worthless.
Are all tax cuts good or not?
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Old 01-30-2012, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Are all tax cuts good or not?
Good? Tax cuts are neither good nor bad. However certain tax cuts stimulate the economy. Clearly a minuscule cut isn't stimulative.
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Old 01-30-2012, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Now you worry about Social Security? lol...

The poor and middle class get a tax break and now you worry.
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Real conservatives support ALL tax cuts.
Um, if you wanted to give a tax break, the cheapest way to do it would be a lump sum personal income tax rebate.

Cutting the FICA rate was the stupidest thing to do, because, in the first place, it costs a helluva lot of money to reprogram all of the software to deduct the correct amount for FICA from payroll.

In case you missed it, and obviously you did, to extend the FICA tax holiday into 2012 cost even more money for employers, tax accounts, tax attorneys, tax preparations specialist and payroll processing companies (like ADP) to reprogram the software.

Obama did it the most expensive way you could possibly do it.

Not only that, but it siphoned money out of the General Fund which is why there are hiring freezes in federal agencies and offices, and few contracts were awarded to private firms, which resulted in job losses.

That was just brilliant.

Laughing at the superior intellect...


Mircea
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Old 01-30-2012, 05:12 PM
 
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Good? Tax cuts are neither good nor bad. However certain tax cuts stimulate the economy. Clearly a minuscule cut isn't stimulative.
This is an amazing change in right wing philosophy. Now tax cuts aren't good nor bad.

Tax cuts are only good nowadays (since 2008) when they're deemed to be "stimulative." Wow....that's a new one.

So a tax cut is only stimulative when it's a BIG cut in taxes, aye?

Just say what the hell you mean and quite bullsh*tting around. Tax cuts are good for the wealthy, and bad for the non-wealthy. It's what you mean, but just won't say.

Damn...you guys act as if we're pulling teeth here.
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