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Old 01-31-2012, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is a U.S. Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospitals to provide care to anyone needing emergency healthcare treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay.

As I stated previously, you walk into an ER, you get seen, period.

That costs money, money that the hospital isn't compensated for. In a country when people can't afford healthcare premiums, they use the ER as their regular doctor.

Whats a 300,000 dollar collection bill for someone making 40,000 a year? Its ignored, thats what it is.
Only if you have a life, limb, or organ threatening emergency. They can still charge you, as well, and threaten to ruin your credit rating.

From the link:
An emergency medical condition is defined as "a condition manifesting itself by acute symptoms of sufficient severity (including severe pain) such that the absence of immediate medical attention could reasonably be expected to result in placing the individual's health [or the health of an unborn child] in serious jeopardy, serious impairment to bodily functions, or serious dysfunction of bodily organs." For example, a pregnant woman with an emergency condition must be treated until delivery is complete, unless a transfer under the statute is appropriate.[11]

If the patient doesn't pay the bill, the hospital can sue the patient and the unsatisfied judgment will likely appear on the patient's credit report.
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Old 01-31-2012, 06:50 PM
 
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Leave her lay there and die. Problem solved.
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Old 01-31-2012, 06:52 PM
 
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That really is the bottom line, isn't it? When medical care in this country became 100% for profit, the costs skyrocketed and millions became uninsurable. What price do you place on a human life?
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Quote:"When medical care in this country became 100% for profit, the costs skyrocketed and millions became uninsurable."

Could you tell me exactly 'when' that happened? Most hospitals are NFP.

Quote:"What price do you place on a human life?"

You don't want my answer.
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Old 01-31-2012, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Somewhere Out West
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If you don't like the health care here, you are totally free to go to any other country you want (There are more MRI machines within a 15 mile radius of me than there is in ALL of Canada).
There are over 250 MRI machines within a 15 mile radius of you? To that I call bull.
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Old 01-31-2012, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Only if you have a life, limb, or organ threatening emergency. They can still charge you, as well, and threaten to ruin your credit rating.

From the link:
An emergency medical condition is defined as "a condition manifesting itself by acute symptoms of sufficient severity (including severe pain) such that the absence of immediate medical attention could reasonably be expected to result in placing the individual's health [or the health of an unborn child] in serious jeopardy, serious impairment to bodily functions, or serious dysfunction of bodily organs." For example, a pregnant woman with an emergency condition must be treated until delivery is complete, unless a transfer under the statute is appropriate.[11]

If the patient doesn't pay the bill, the hospital can sue the patient and the unsatisfied judgment will likely appear on the patient's credit report.
Not true, do you realize how many people get treated at the ER every year for the flu?

Again, if you make 40K a year, you don't give a damn about your credit report. You have to buy cars at buy here pay heres, and you will rarely ever own a home in most places. So sue all you want, send bill collectors all you want, it doesn't matter.

Thats the point, we have many people who can't afford insurance, can't afford care, so they go the ER for the flu, then get a massive bill that they never pay. The hospital then charges others more to make up the difference, because you can't pay the bills with other peoples IOU's
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Old 01-31-2012, 06:55 PM
 
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Only if you have a life, limb, or organ threatening emergency. They can still charge you, as well, and threaten to ruin your credit rating.

From the link:
An emergency medical condition is defined as "a condition manifesting itself by acute symptoms of sufficient severity (including severe pain) such that the absence of immediate medical attention could reasonably be expected to result in placing the individual's health [or the health of an unborn child] in serious jeopardy, serious impairment to bodily functions, or serious dysfunction of bodily organs." For example, a pregnant woman with an emergency condition must be treated until delivery is complete, unless a transfer under the statute is appropriate.[11]

If the patient doesn't pay the bill, the hospital can sue the patient and the unsatisfied judgment will likely appear on the patient's credit report.
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Thank you for clarifying to the OP's.
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Old 01-31-2012, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Thank you for clarifying to the OP's.
Giving flu shots to tots cuts ER visits by a third - Health - Children's health - msnbc.com

She didn't clarify anything, she is reading the words, not acknowledging reality.

If you walk into the ER, they treat you as if your life depends on it, regardless of what you actually have. Its law.
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Old 01-31-2012, 06:59 PM
 
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U.S. News - Iconic skier's death points out U.S. health gap

By Kari Huus, msnbc.com
Since the death of Canadian skier Sarah Burke in January, fans and supporters from around the world have donated over $300,000 – more than enough to cover the massive U.S. medical bill generated by efforts to save her.

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Nice.

Politicizing the death of a young American.

Would she have survived in, let's say, Italy?
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Old 01-31-2012, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Houston
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There are over 250 MRI machines within a 15 mile radius of you? To that I call bull.

Maybe not.

One single hospital system in Houston has 22.

MRI Imaging Centers in Houston, Texas | Memorial Hermann Hospital System
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Old 01-31-2012, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Nice.

Politicizing the death of a young American.

Would she have survived in, let's say, Italy?
I believe she was Canadian.
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