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Old 02-02-2012, 11:19 AM
 
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Good point... now only if you lived in isolation instead of the society you choose to, and enjoy commercial developments as a result. In a society, you must learn to give up "me, me, me" mentality. When you do both, you come out as a whiny person, a hypocrite.
Don't question my charitable contributions to society, I can guarantee the free and interest free fuel alone I've provided to needy families far exceeds anything you have given.




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Why should a tax on oil be all about repairing and building roads?
LOL, you always avoid the hard parts of the discussion and try and steer the discussion away from them. What does this question have to do with why we aren't pushing for freight rail?

In any event to answer your question perhaps because they are crumbling under our feet?
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:20 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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No it doesn't because full buses shouldn't need public funding.

That would depend. Is the driver making more money than god? If so, he's/she's union and it will always require public funding.
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Well, I do know the difference between profit and loss, shouldn't you?
Yes I should, and do. In fact, I can see that you understand the difference between profit and loss albeit at elementary school level, obviously a conservative view of it. Real world economics demands more, however.
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Back and Forth FRANCE
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LOL, So glad I'm not driving. I'll stick to riding the trains, no matter how uncomfortably crowded they've been getting lately.
I've read he's thinking about increasing those fares too.
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:29 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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No it doesn't because full buses shouldn't need public funding.
And what's the logic behind this? Do full highways need public funding?

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Well, I do know the difference between profit and loss, shouldn't you?




Riding the Subsidized Rails of Amtrak at a Loss of $32 per Passenger - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine
Do you think roads, highways, interstates operate at a profit?
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:30 AM
 
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And what's the logic behind this? Do full highways need public funding?
The funds are obtained from those using the service through taxes on fule, registrations etc. Matter of fact driving is huge source of revenue for the government if you wanted to included licensing costs, speeding tickets etc.
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Don't question my charitable contributions to society, I can guarantee the free and interest free fuel alone I've provided to needy families far exceeds anything you have given.
I don't care about your charities and charitable contributions. I'm talking about taxes, societies and responsibilities. Let us stick with it.

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LOL, you always avoid the hard parts of the discussion and try and steer the discussion away from them. What does this question have to do with why we aren't pushing for freight rail?
There are no hard part in these discussion, just non-sense and BS kind. Excuses to push for keeping the demand for oil, and sticking the head in the sand when it comes to consequences of it. The hard point would be to agree with a "conservative" on the value of conservation of resources.

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In any event to answer your question perhaps because they are crumbling under our feet?
Why do you need them?
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:39 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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The funds are obtained from those using the service through taxes on fule, registrations etc. Matter of fact driving is huge source of revenue for the government if you wanted to included licensing costs, speeding tickets etc.
And do all these "user taxes" cover the maintenance and expansion of our roads?
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Wow, I've been hearing about this in the news lately. As if the recent $1 toll increase for MDTA roadways, tunnels, & bridges wasn't enough....

What about the proposed "App" tax for iPhone users?
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:55 AM
 
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And do all these "user taxes" cover the maintenance and expansion of our roads?
If they don't then they should, having said that they support a lot of things like mass transit. I've already posted my thoughts on this. I actually support increases taxes because it's needed but that support only comes with the assurance all current taxes collected and any new taxes would be used only for roads and bridges.
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