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Old 02-02-2012, 09:13 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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I don't use rail, why should I support it? I mentioned before the buses running around in my county, brand new with no one on them. You think that's an adequate use of taxes?
The buses in my neck of the roads are generally full, I guess my anecdotal story about buses cancels out your anecdotal story.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:23 AM
 
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OK? And what are the consquences of higher gas prices? People tend to use less gas...... There are intended and unintended consequences to everything just so you know.

Or MD can not raise the gas tax and continue down its same path as government leaders, dems and repubs, are both equally good at wasting money.

Here in Texas we have the opposite problem, our taxes are so low nothing is funded properly and we have an exploding population which is recipe for disaster. Texas will be like Cali with all the overcrowded and inadequate infrastructure.



LOLZ. Oh nos internet threats! I bet he sure is scared of you...
Not a threat. Just some perverse humor on a slow day. And as I am just text on a screen, he should have no fear of me whatsoever.

There is rationality in what you way. However, we are already very heavily taxed on all levels in Maryland. And, as I mentioned, the Maryland government is not stewarded by fiscal responsibility. Maryland, particularly my county, is chacterized by a vulgar combination of both left and right. They spend millions subsidizing illegals while allowing big developers to run rampant with their shopping mall cities and leaving us with the bill for new infrastructure, schools, cops, etc.

Were that not the case, I would be more willing to accept it. When the Free State ceases fiscal insantiy and can prove, more or less, that they have done all the cost-cutting, productivity enhancements, and belt-tightening they can, then we can talk about tax increases.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Parasites
Public Transpo Refuseniks
Materialistic, Superficial, and fanatically Christian.

You're welcome.
Well, we can agree on that.

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Which I would kick you with were I willing to ever set foot in that tacky shopping mall masquerading as a city.
Must be a lot going on in those boots... do they stink? I hear a bubbling sound, even over teh internets.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I don't use rail, why should I support it? I mentioned before the buses running around in my county, brand new with no one on them. You think that's an adequate use of taxes?
Good point... now only if you lived in isolation instead of the society you choose to, and enjoy commercial developments as a result. In a society, you must learn to give up "me, me, me" mentality. When you do both, you come out as a whiny person, a hypocrite.

Personally, I see oil usage as detrimental to the future of the society I choose to live in, and consequently willing to contribute towards effect that allow for a reduction, with commercial development benefitting from it. Do you always discount indirect benefits of infrastructure, or follow a pick and choose mentality?

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If you wanted to reduce oil consumption and reduce the wear and tear on our highways go right to the root of the problem, subsidize and provide incentive to use rail for freight. Although it's an obvious and most likely best solution that won't score political points compared to shiny new trains for commuter traffic will it?
Why should a tax on oil be all about repairing and building roads?
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:39 AM
 
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Must be a lot going on in those boots... do they stink? I hear a bubbling sound, even over teh internets
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Like dead rats.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Like dead rats.
No wonder you've been trying to shake those off. I was right about the stink after all.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:49 AM
 
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No wonder you've been trying to shake those off. I was right about the stink after all.
100% correctamundo.

First time for everything.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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100% correctamundo.

First time for everything.
First pair of boots? No wonder you hate shopping malls.

I will leave you at that.
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Old 02-02-2012, 10:11 AM
 
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The buses in my neck of the roads are generally full, I guess my anecdotal story about buses cancels out your anecdotal story.
No it doesn't because full buses shouldn't need public funding.
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Old 02-02-2012, 10:17 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Certainly, within the limited confines of your understanding of economic viability. Outside of it... leave it to us.

Its the future, again.
Well, I do know the difference between profit and loss, shouldn't you?


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