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Old 02-02-2012, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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I think I know enough lower income people to tell you that alphamale is right when he says it doesn't take much to feed a family. That is true if you do it right. If you exclude McDonalds and eating out, buy economically, and actually cook your own meals and don't buy premade, it is more than possible. I know because I have been low income before and done it. And I did it without food stamps or food banks, free lunches and any of that. Those that I know that claim to be struggling don't want to do this. It is about choices.

Correct! I've been there and had to make those choices.
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Old 02-02-2012, 04:35 PM
 
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what exactly was your low income? And where?
Where and how much doesn't matter. It was years ago when we were starting out and the kids were little. There just wasn't a lot of money and we absolutely needed every cent that came in, but we always had plenty to eat because we made it a priority. Other things had to wait until we could afford them.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:51 PM
 
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Default Are the poor poor becuase the rich are rich?

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You are angry because you have to take a **** test when you work?
This assumption is wrong like most of your other assumptions, I'm not angry and I don't work.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:55 PM
 
Location: southern california
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no the rich do not make the poor poor
if u r willing to work here u can have a life, not true of other countries
been there done that.
when i tried to help the poor, i realized (after first getting into trouble ) that
they were utterly unwilling to do what i did to stop being poor. even the suggestion was offensive.
i dont know why they are like that but this i know ----- they are terrified absolutely terrified of success and will deliberately sabatoge their own progress.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:38 PM
 
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This assumption is wrong like most of your other assumptions, I'm not angry and I don't work.

I'm not assuming. I'm making an educated guess with the information I'm given.

Explain what that means then?
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Pure bullsqueeze.

The poor are mostly poor because for generations, they've lacked ambition and have refused to take advantage of the free education that is there for the taking. Instead they are more than willing to suck up anything they can get for free from the government.

Ignorance will never be very profitable.

Opportunity exists in this country for those who are willing to work for it.
Not everybody can be a doctor, or broker, or lawyer etc. someone has to work at Mcdonald's, someone has to be the janitor.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:46 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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The last time I checked we all have 24 hours in a day. Poor people have the same amount of time to do what they are going to do as anyone else. The difference is in what they do with their time. Whose fault can it possibly be if poor people remain poor simply because they do not have the desire to do what is necessary to achieve more? In your mind you could blame it on the weather, or the clouds in the sky, or the wind that blows, it would make as much sense as trying to blame it on someone other than the person himself that is not willing to get ahead. You might be the hardest worker but if you are dumb as a post you still will not get ahead because you will not make the best use of what you have. Is this beginning to sound familiar to you?

So how are the poor working 2 jobs and many taking care of kids gonna have time to go to school? Where are they gonna get the money if all their money is going to rent, food, car etc? Keep up with your delusional ideas though that if everyone tried and worked hard no one would be poor.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:50 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Some folks are poor because they get stuck in a self-imposed rut, where they either don't think they can do any better, or they are too afraid or too lazy to try. I know this from first hand experience with friends and relatives.
True and others just do not have the mental capacity then to do more then basic tasks. No one is saying they need to be payed a lot of money but there is no reason for them to not have enough to live on.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:59 PM
 
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No, the poor are not poor because the rich, are rich.

The fat are not fat because the slim folks are slim, etc. etc.

We really are all responsible for our own conditions in life. Unbelievable how many folks think otherwise.
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Old 02-02-2012, 10:04 PM
 
Location: southern california
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So how are the poor working 2 jobs and many taking care of kids gonna have time to go to school? Where are they gonna get the money if all their money is going to rent, food, car etc? Keep up with your delusional ideas though that if everyone tried and worked hard no one would be poor.
having kids yes that a big big issue.
that takes your own life, which is not yet developed--- off line. (at least for a few years)
but after, if u r on your own u can work and go to school live in a small place move on up. been there done that.
"but i must live for my kids always its my life" is often the angry response when this suggestion is made to welfare recipients.
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