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View Poll Results: Should JC Penney dump Ellen DeGeneres because she's gay?
Yes 13 9.29%
No 125 89.29%
Not sure 2 1.43%
Voters: 140. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-04-2012, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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I don't keep track of them either, yet somehow I know that JCPenny is now a pro-gay store. When you shop there you can expect to see a lot of gay people, and while most are OK with that, there are many who will choose to not go in because of it.
Oh right. Gays are suddenly going to start shopping en masse at Penney's. NOT!
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Madonna and Eddie Murphy are not controversial? Even Dr. Cosby has made waves with some of his social commentary in recent years.

And NY Giants fans might have something to say about Tom Brady!
They are neutral people, that is why I threw them out there. No one would boycott JCPenny if one of those people was the spokesperson. If Madonna and Eddie Murphey are contraversial in some way, then you scratch them off the list and find someone who is not. Look at Charlie Sheen, for example. He would be a poor choise, because some people oppose what he represents.
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Well, if they bow to anti-gay pressure and "fire" her, I'll bet it's safe to say they will lose far more business than what you think they are losing by having her as their spokesperson.

In fact, I'm going to be near a JCP store this week - I think I'll go in and buy something just to show my support.
They put themselves in this "damn if you do, damn if you don't" situation where they will lose customers either way. This whole thing was a bad move, and I am sure they regret they did it.
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:46 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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When you shop there you can expect to see a lot of gay people
Can you please tell me how I'm supposed to know which customers are gay and which are straight when I'm in there next week?

You know, in case my gaydar is on the blink.
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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They are neutral people, that is why I threw them out there. No one would boycott JCPenny if one of those people was the spokesperson. If Madonna and Eddie Murphey are contraversial in some way, then you scratch them off the list and find someone who is not. Look at Charlie Sheen, for example. He would be a poor choise, because some people oppose what he represents.
Madonna and especially Eddie Murphy would turn some people off. Madonna has been criticized by conservative governments and religious leaders around the world for what they consider to be anti-religion, and Eddie Murphy's stand-up comedy routines usually included the "f-word" about 5000 times. He made fun of gay men with AIDS as part of his act. He's also been seen picking up transsexual prostitutes in L.A.
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:48 PM
 
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Yes, I am sure there is always someone to oppose someone else, but we are not talking about a handful of people, but millions who are not pro-gay.

Unless you want to target a specific group of people, you have to remain neutral, and JCPenny is a store which does not target one group, but all groups.
You are showing everyone how backward your views are. I'd stop posting if I were you.

For example, if a gay person endorses a product or business it doesn't mean the producer or business supports homosexuality. It probably means that such a thing doesn't matter to them, a view shared--and understood--by the vast majority of consumers. Change "gay" to "black" or "Jewish" or any other minority. Does the same silly argument of support hold true? No.

The only businesses that choose to offend customers are those who deliberately exclude certain customers and they are usually social conservatives who want to pretend they are holier-than-thou. Other than these businesses, which, by the way, usually lose customers as a result of their bias, most go out of their way NOT to offend anyone. They don't always succeed, though. If JCP, by choosing a spokesperson who is gay, which has NOTHING to do with their being a spokesperson, loses you as a customer, I say good riddance. I don't want to be shopping next to someone who's going to point out customers they think are gay and ridicule them. Go shop at Circle KKK or KKKmart or someplace elsewhere you're assured a comfortable clientele.
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Oh right. Gays are suddenly going to start shopping en masse at Penney's. NOT!
Some people will think that will happen, and go somewhere else instead, maybe Macy's.
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Madonna and especially Eddie Murphy would some people off. Madonna has been criticized by conservative governments and religious leaders around the world for what they consider to be anti-religion, and Eddie Murphy's stand-up comedy routines usually included the "f-word" about 5000 times. He made fun of gay men with AIDS as part of his act. He's also been seen picking up transsexual prostitutes in L.A.
OK, then scratch them off the list and find non-contraversial person. I just threw in those four, although I don't know much about Madonna or Murphey's pasts. You do your research, and make the pick. It's not that hard.
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:52 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Some people will think that will happen, and go somewhere else instead, maybe Macy's.
Right! They'll be sure not to run into any gay people shopping at Macy's.
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Some people will think that will happen, and go somewhere else instead, maybe Macy's.
Here's a few celebrities who have been spokespeople for Macy's:

Donald Trump
Jennifer Lopez
Jessica Simpson
Madonna
Martha Stewart
Puff Daddy

You can't tell me those people aren't controversial in some way.

K-Mart had Rosie O'Donnell as their spokesperson for awhile. I wonder why the "One Million Moms" didn't protest then.

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