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Old 02-02-2012, 05:36 PM
 
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The government cannot create jobs only people can if government will just out of the way.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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People can't even define them.

A guy who works for a company and earns let's say $200K a year is NOT a job creator.
He's a worker bee for that company.
Then take a small business owner with 1 or 2 employees making $150K a year. He is a job creator but not considered one since he doesn't make $200K.
I am sick of politicians saying multinationals are "job creators" (like GE).

Politicians dont give a damn about people running their own businesses in this country. When they kow- tow and genuflect ad nauseum, its because they know they are giving American workers the shaft.

Will love watching the b.s. fest come election time...They better not use the phrase "tighten your belts " again either, Obama as used that phrase about ten times. Needs a more creative speechwriter.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:59 PM
 
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Just tired of hearing the phrase "obama."
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Not directly. Demand for goods indirectly creates jobs. The actual hiring is done by the company and they are free to hire in whatever country they want.

And there are plenty of jobs being created. The BRIC countries are not only recovering but some of them are booming.


You are right the Job Creators are creating plenty of jobs in the BRIC nations and much of the money doing this is American. When a company like GE, Monsanto or Intel builds a new Chinese plant or R%D center do you think the Chinese pay for this. Don't be silly! When a American company does this they usually shut down a comparable facillity in the USA because they can hust as easily service the US market from China and keeping reduntant facillities is poor management technique! Somehow it never occurs to them that they could service the Chinese market from the USA. I believe its called exporting.
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Old 02-02-2012, 10:29 PM
 
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Ah yeah, "Job Creators." You can thank Republican strategist Frank Luntz for that popularization of that phrase--and many like it. Excuse the obviously biased website, but any cursory searching of Luntz will bring up his work.

It's straight Orwellian double-speak. The spin-doctor runs focus groups and finds words and phrases in which people respond positively. It doesn't matter if the word of phrase doesn't accurately describe the subject, or if it is intentionally biased, charged, or otherwise negative in meaning. It's about selling the Republican narrative. You'll see those words and phrases pop up on the ultimate "Main Stream Media" network--Fox News.

Republicans are being sold, and most of 'em don't realize it.
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:23 AM
 
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As a Republican, I have always hated the term "job creators" with a passion.
Exactly.

Who in the hell goes through the stress, sacrifice and personal risk of nurturing their dream of being successful, by their own hand, brains and efforts, because "they want to create jobs"?

Look people, you either work for yourself, for somebody else or not at all and demand that the taxpayer foot your bills.

There's nothing magical about it.

I live in a state where the majority of voters expect the gov't to manage their lives and we're a corrupt, fiscal basket case.

Oh yeah, we're also number one or two when it comes to the overall tax load imposed on its people.

Go figure.
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:37 AM
 
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the *******s in office can't even create a budget. what makes anyone in there right mind that they can create jobs? and mcdonalds don't count as jobs that someone can survive off of and support themselves never mind a family.
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:39 AM
 
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if people look to the government to be the job creators, they are going to be sorely disappointed.



Obama: Shovel Ready jobs not shovel ready - YouTube

i think we can all agree that the government does a worse job of job creation than the private sector.
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Old 02-03-2012, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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It's getting old. Did they ship themselves overseas.
They shipped their money overseas to avoid taxes without penalties and shipped the jobs overseas for the slave wages.
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Old 02-03-2012, 07:22 AM
 
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if people look to the government to be the job creators, they are going to be sorely disappointed........

i think we can all agree that the government does a worse job of job creation than the private sector.

Wrong. We in NJ have an enormous amount of good paying public sector jobs.

With benefits and retirement packages out the wazoo
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