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Old 02-03-2012, 08:03 PM
 
Location: The Brightest City On Earth
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I don't trust Iran. Yes, I'm a liberal.
It is not whether you trust them or not. It is about you or Israel or anybody else trying to commit us to yet another billion dollar bloody decade long fiasco and the American people should not stand for that. Exactly what about Iran don't you trust? They don't have any history of aggression but have been the victims of it many times by this country, the UK, Iraq and others. I don't blame them for making nuclear weapons if that is what they are doing. They live in a dangerous neighborhood.
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:14 PM
 
Location: The Brightest City On Earth
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I think the chances of Israel attacking Iran are very small. If they has such plans, you think honestly that they would be publicly disclosing them to the world? When has Israel ever done that before?
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:26 PM
 
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The war mongers actually seem lazy this time. They aren't even coming up with any fresh ideas to scare people with. Iran might be developing WMD(nukes). No proof other than suspicion. Iran wants to cause attacks on American soil. Its Iraq all over again. I'm actually disappointed in the lack of creativity by the neocons.
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Old 02-04-2012, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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This is probably going to start very soon: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-02/israel-defense-chief-barak-says-world-understands-need-to-act-against-iran.html
I don’t even think that we will have any say. We want to take the sanctions route - but; Israel doesn’t look like it will wait.
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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I think the chances of Israel attacking Iran are very small. If they has such plans, you think honestly that they would be publicly disclosing them to the world? When has Israel ever done that before?
What Israel and the U.S. media are doing now is getting the propaganda mill cranked up while Israel goads Iran into firing the first shot that will be heard around the world.

Once Iran takes the bait and becomes the aggressor their butts will be toast unless dumb luck (and Russia, China, or N.Korea get into it) saves their bacon.

This whole affair is a train wreck about to happen.............
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:29 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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What Israel and the U.S. media are doing now is getting the propaganda mill cranked up while Israel goads Iran into firing the first shot that will be heard around the world.

Once Iran takes the bait and becomes the aggressor their butts will be toast unless dumb luck (and Russia, China, or N.Korea get into it) saves their bacon.

This whole affair is a train wreck about to happen.............
They don't even need to bait Iran. The Mossad is probably the best covert intelligence agency on the planet. They could strike a target in Israel and make it convincing to the world that it was Iran who launched the attack.
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Old 02-04-2012, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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They don't even need to bait Iran. The Mossad is probably the best covert intelligence agency on the planet. They could strike a target in Israel and make it convincing to the world that it was Iran who launched the attack.
Shush! This secret is how Israel plans to fake a reason to start a war.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:03 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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I believe the final attack on Iran will be much more intense than anyone is expecting.
The constant threats by Iran to retaliate worldwide are not being taken lightly.
I believe that when the attack occurs it will be of a magnitude that will cripple Iran's ability to respond along with the simultaneous mass arrest of Iranians in the US, and Europe who are suspected of possible insurgency.
The US has been planning and making preparations for this attack for more than a decade.
They have a comprehensive system of surveillance and even prepared detainment camps here and world wide.
The government understands the effectiveness of overwhelming force, and as we saw in Iraq, believes in the doctrine of shock and awe.
The media's constant repetition of possible Iranian worldwide retaliation seems to be laying the groundwork to justify an attack that would prevent such action.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:57 AM
 
Location: NY, NY
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Grandpa says....
"Those who have power will not willingly share it with others."

America has become an isolationist nation once again after illegal wars in iraq and Afghanistan. FDR had to fight isolationism to get America into WWII so America could fight the war AWAY from American soil !! It is also time to change the repressive regimes in Iran & Syria.

Israel will now start our next war to allow isolationism to be pushed aside once again just like FDR ALLOWED Pearl Harbor to happen.

Second World War II campaigns -- isolationist America
You cant be serious? The US is quite possibly the least isolationist nation in the entire world! Our hands are in every nation that has existed in the past 50 years.

Hell, we are the reason that there is an Israel (Germany helped with that too) and a theocratic Iran.
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Old 02-08-2012, 08:19 AM
 
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I believe the final attack on Iran will be much more intense than anyone is expecting.
The constant threats by Iran to retaliate worldwide are not being taken lightly.
I believe that when the attack occurs it will be of a magnitude that will cripple Iran's ability to respond along with the simultaneous mass arrest of Iranians in the US, and Europe who are suspected of possible insurgency.
The US has been planning and making preparations for this attack for more than a decade.
They have a comprehensive system of surveillance and even prepared detainment camps here and world wide.
The government understands the effectiveness of overwhelming force, and as we saw in Iraq, believes in the doctrine of shock and awe.
The media's constant repetition of possible Iranian worldwide retaliation seems to be laying the groundwork to justify an attack that would prevent such action.

Why should anyone attack Iran? They will be forced to attack someone real soon or time will stop for them as it did in Cuba. Sanctions, embargoes, cut supply lines, and frozen assets; straight out of the FDR/Soviet playbook. Much of the US wanted nothing to do with the war in Europe back in 1940 so FDR did everything in his power to push a German ally to attack us. Our interference was publicly in the name of humanitarianism then too.
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