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Old 02-03-2012, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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For starters, Iran is not Hamas..nobody credibly claims Hamas homemade rockets are Iran's fault.

That's so stupid. So if Mexico attacks the USA we can bomb Canada?.....LOL
If Canada provided Mexico the funding and the knowledge, it would at least make them culpable.

Hamas is a group, not a country. Your analogy should be "if the drug cartels attack the US we can bomb Canada.". And in that case, if Canada was training the cartels, providing them training and funding, it would make them as guilty as the trigger man.
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Old 02-03-2012, 07:00 AM
 
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If Canada provided Mexico the funding and the knowledge, it would at least make them culpable.

Hamas is a group, not a country. Your analogy should be "if the drug cartels attack the US we can bomb Canada.". And in that case, if Canada was training the cartels, providing them training and funding, it would make them as guilty as the trigger man.
Hamas is the elected government of the occupied and oppressed territory Israel illegally controls.

Iran does not support Hamas to any significant extent.

Israeli apologists hype this exaggeration and you come along and repeat it as fact.

Hoping to provide some lame excuse for Israel's illegal attack on Iran.

Every rouge nation in history has claimed some ludicrous "security" reason for illegally attacking another country.

And here you are backing them up.
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Old 02-03-2012, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Who's talking to you? This is about Israel. They don't ask for the U.S. help....and certainly don't need it to take care of that job...or your dollars.



Only speaking about Israel not needing the U.S. or anyone on earth to 'help' them fight their battles. They are probably the smartest warriors on earth. Money was not on my mind...
Without the aid from the USA over the years Israel wouldn't exist today.
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Old 02-03-2012, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Iran never targeted the US when they were illegally attacked by Israel.
And now Iran is explicitly saying they will.

Your point?

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What FP expert is claiming the US would be attacked in retaliation for an illegal Israeli attack on Iran?
You mean... other than Iran itself?

Well, there's Director of National Intelligence James Clapper.

And then there's German Prosecutor General Harald Range.

I mean really, do you not know how to find things on-line?

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Personally I hope every Israeli jet that attacks Iran without being first attacked is blown out of the sky. That's what I think of our "alliance" with these bigoted thugs.
Your opinion is noted. But at least you recognize that it is an alliance, and that there are consequences to them.
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Toledo
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Who's talking to you? This is about Israel. They don't ask for the U.S. help....and certainly don't need it to take care of that job...or your dollars.



Only speaking about Israel not needing the U.S. or anyone on earth to 'help' them fight their battles. They are probably the smartest warriors on earth. Money was not on my mind...

Well since money isn't on your mind, I assume that you won't have a problem with the U.S. ending all foreign "aid" (weapons included) to Israel.

The only way Israel will truly stand on their own is if we cut the purse strings.
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:59 AM
 
Location: southern california
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Huckleberry what part did Iran provide for the rocket?

The sugar? Was it cane sugar or sugar beats? Perhaps the nail? Maybe the spring? Springs are soooo hard to get.
no but without help, they would have tried to launch it with cane sugar bek of the high illiteracy rate in palistine and lack of materials. these were very complex instructions and sophisticated manufactered rocket kits. they did not manufacture these kits in a goat hut, they were given the kits by iran and the tech help to assemble them--- yes including the nails.
iran bankrolls hamas, america bankrolls israel. we both have our reasons.
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Old 02-03-2012, 09:02 AM
 
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America has always stuck it's nose into everyone else's business.What Israel does to protect itself from Iran is there own business.
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Old 02-03-2012, 09:07 AM
 
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And now Iran is explicitly saying they will.

Your point?


You mean... other than Iran itself?

Well, there's Director of National Intelligence James Clapper.

And then there's German Prosecutor General Harald Range.

I mean really, do you not know how to find things on-line?


Your opinion is noted. But at least you recognize that it is an alliance, and that there are consequences to them.
I see the problem here. You must not be a native English speaker.

From your only English link

"have changed their calculus and are now more willing to conduct an attack in the U.S. in response to real or perceived U.S. actions that threaten the regime.”

In other words if the US attacks them, or amasses an army at their border to attack them, Iran will respond.

Wow! They they claim they will attack us if we attack them! The nerve!

We were talking about Israel attacking Iran and Iran retaliating by attacking the US.

Auf Wiedersehen!
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Old 02-03-2012, 10:04 AM
 
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No different than what the Israeli lobby tries to do here. Just politics as usual. Nothing to see here. Move along folks.
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Old 02-03-2012, 10:06 AM
 
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Default Who is Panetta warning about Israeli attack? Iran?

Panetta warns of imminent Israeli strike on Iran

American media are reporting that Leon Panetta is concerned about the increased likelihood of Israel launching at attack over the next few months.

CNN confirmed reports first published in the Washington Post, citing a senior Obama administration official as its source. Mr Panetta and the Pentagon have declined to comment on the Washington Post report.


Do you think Iran got the message?

Something fishy going on out there. One minute we are talking tough against Iran - the next minute we are sending them warnings about Israel.

EDIT - Duplicate thread - delete.
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