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Old 02-02-2012, 12:11 PM
 
Location: North America
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Really? Wouldn't that be more enabling? Still free to spread their legs to whomever they choose, and absolved of all responsibility.

That responsibility starts with the woman who got pregnant. Your "right to have sex" does not end at birth, either. Correct - can't have it both ways.

Ermmm, doesn't it take a sperm donor to conceive a child? Last time I checked, it does, what, no "blame" for the father?

tsk tsk tsk.

Check your calendar, it's no longer the 1950's.
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Old 02-02-2012, 12:13 PM
 
Location: California
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Why do you think these women are just getting pregnant??
Men are having sex with them and filling them up with sperm. Why do you think?

I'm not anti Koman but the do need to be scaled back and they will. Nothing get's that big without toppling and they have overstepped and overdone and overreached. I was a good run, literally, and they will probably always play a role but they aren't the best group to donate to if you care about curing anything. People just feel better when their charity is advertised and everyone can see it. I will personally NEVER wear a ribbon of any color...I'm not about grandstanding.

I switched my mamo's from Oct to Nov because I couldn't stand the pink hype.
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Old 02-02-2012, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Self breast exams are the ONLY OPTION for women under 35. Even women with a family history are not routinely given mammograms until they are 35 (insurance will not cover it younger than that).
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Young adult survivors are already a vulnerable population. Planned Parenthood losing funding makes us even more difficult to reach.
Underscore. Yet another reason why supporting Planned Parenthood is so important.
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Old 02-02-2012, 12:19 PM
 
Location: North America
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Men are having sex with them and filling them up with sperm. Why do you think?

I'm not anti Koman but the do need to be scaled back and they will. Nothing get's that big without toppling and they have overstepped and overdone and overreached. I was a good run, literally, and they will probably always play a role but they aren't the best group to donate to if you care about curing anything. People just feel better when their charity is advertised and everyone can see it. I will personally NEVER wear a ribbon of any color...I'm not about grandstanding.

I switched my mamo's from Oct to Nov because I couldn't stand the pink hype.

pssst, don't let that get around, people might get ideas.
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Old 02-02-2012, 12:22 PM
 
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Good, no reason to continue to fund the genocide agency (of black people) founded by a eugenics supporter.

Planned Parenthood: its founder's philosophy of genocide - National Christianity & Culture | Examiner.com

I hate to use examiner.com as a reference, but they have more links within that page and it was an easy link to find.

I actually once read a good bit about good ol' Margaret Sanger and it was obvious that Planned Parenthood was a plan to reduce the number of the "undesireables."
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Old 02-02-2012, 12:25 PM
 
Location: North America
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Good, no reason to continue to fund the genocide agency (of black people) founded by a eugenics supporter.

I'm selling catcher's mitts on ebay, buy yoursef one and go to a maternity ward. Catch 'em right out of the oven, then raise 'em.

Works for me, then the genocide agency will have to shut its doors.
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Old 02-02-2012, 12:27 PM
 
Location: California
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Most hospitals perform abortions too. Shut them down why dontcha.
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Old 02-02-2012, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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^Or how about they look a woman diagnosed with late stage breast (or any other) cancer in the face and tell her that she cannot end her pregnancy to save her life. After all, she shouldn't have been so irresponsible to get pregnant in the off chance that she might get cancer.

If you need other reasons to hate SGK, here are a few (including carinogen filled perfume and pink guns! rah rah pro-life!):
Three reasons I wish I could quit you, Susan G. Komen!
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Old 02-02-2012, 01:02 PM
 
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Wanted to state since no one pointed this out that the first link you posted is only about CA not the whole country. Also I know so many of you want to control your kids and I do think that parental involvement is key but if a teenage girl knows she is going to be sexually active and her parents do not want her to get this vaccination, then I think she is more of a responsible person than her parents. Parents are given too much leeway in a lot of circumstances and this is coming from a parent just so you know.

On your second link, I think you like many other of the anti-vaccine crowd fail to realize that Hep B is not just a sexually transmitted disease. Many people have contracted Hep B from surgeries. I have a friend who's baby was born with a heart defect and he had to have open heart surgery as a newborn. This vaccine is given in order to protect these children from this disease and it is life saving.

Also, you can always opt out of giving your baby a vaccine. I did not give Hep B to my son at birth and waited until he was a bit older but that was only because I was not educated about vaccinations back then and I have a fear of needles and didn't want them injecting my baby because I hate the way they look.

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Mammograms are routing for those under 40 with a family history of breast cancer.
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Self breast exams are the ONLY OPTION for women under 35. Even women with a family history are not routinely given mammograms until they are 35 (insurance will not cover it younger than that).

Thousands of woman and men are diagnosed with breast cancer under 40 - many with no family history. Young adult breast cancer tends to be more aggressive. PP is incredibly effective at catching reproductive cancers (and other cancers) in young adults - without PP, many young adults would not get a yearly pap or breast exam. These exams can also catch lymphoma and other tumors. Young adults are routinely diagnosed in late stages (I was Stage IV) because we are underinsured or uninsured (because we're generally healthy). Many young women go to Planned Parenthood for yearly gyn exams and that's how so many of us are diagnosed.

Young adult survivors are already a vulnerable population. Planned Parenthood losing funding makes us even more difficult to reach.
I was going to respond to the second quote with similar words as the above. My grandmother died of breast cancer when she was 35. I am black, it has been shown that all breast cancer, especially earlier onset breast cancers are more severe and develop more rapidly in black women than in other ethnic groups.

I am currently 32. My insurance will not pay for me to get a mammogram. My grandmother got breast cancer when she was 29 and got a mastectomy, it came back and killed her when she was 35 with 5 kids and a husband.

Because of this history, I have had to pay quite a bit of money for a mammogram. I am lucky that I make good money and can afford it. But I also know the value that PP provides as when I was in college I used them for all my gynecological needs. I have never had an abortion at all and went for gyn exams and birth control. I got Rx meds from them for some health concerns I had for way below costs.

And for those who say that PP doesn't do mammograms at all their locations, I would like to educate you on the fact that PP will refer you to a clinic for a mammogram and it will significantly cheaper for you since it is a PP referral. A referral does not mean that PP will abandon you or you will no longer be under their direct care in regards to your health concern. It is similar to a regular OB/gyn referring out their patients for the same type of services. With both my pregnancies I was referred to a perinatal specialist to do my routine ultrasounds but the specialist sent all the materials back to my OB/gyn and I was still under their care. My OB/gyn refers all their patients to another location for mammograms, usually to a radiology department of a hospital. The insurance coverage follows the patient, just like a PP patient's status follows them as well so the mammogram will either be free or significantly discounted for the PP patient because of them being referred from PP>
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Old 02-02-2012, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Lakeside
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I have two daughters (already vaccinated for HPV) and I have NO problems with them or any other girl getting a recommended vaccine or even birth control thru a medical doctor without parental consent.

I have no patience with the anti-vaxxer's ingnorance and dogma or with parent's foisting their religious beliefs on teenage offspring when it can have a direct negative impact on their lives thru pregnancy or disease.

A girl who chooses to become sexually active should be able to make this choice for herself while being guided by a medical professional.


Parent don't always know whats best for their kids or know what is best but put their own beliefs in front of what is best for their child. I remember a few years ago, parents in Michigan (I think) praying over their dying daughter as she slipped into a diabetic coma and died. All for lack of insulin because the parents believed they knew better and prayed instead of getting medical help for her.

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