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You would be comfortable with a public school bombarding your children with political opinions counter to your own on a daily basis? You can't be serious.
Bombarding?! Is there even one incident where she said anything?
The teachers at a school are not clones of each other, they have different attitudes themselves, and their students are confronted with them, which is a good thing as it forces them to think for themselves. Frankly, I think most teachers are more intelligent than most parents, so by and large teachers' influence on kids is positive compared to the parents' influence.
I’m fine with a school teaching a lesson plan on “communism as presented by communists” provided they also teach “capitalism as presented by capitalists.”
Well there's no need for the latter because one can watch the news and be bombarded with that 24/7.
I’m fine with a school teaching a lesson plan on “communism as presented by communists” provided they also teach “capitalism as presented by capitalists.”
The school was showing communism, from the view of communists. Tell the whole story.
I am fine with public schools teaching communism because that is clearly what we believe works since we tolerate public schools. Its a state run monopoly after all. Does it surprise anyone they teach their own system? If that is the best way to do it, then why teach the falsehood of market systems?
You lost a long time ago when you accepted the state run monopoly with no justification for it. Its not a natural monopoly, but you turned it over to the state who can and does brain wash you. It worked so well that you don't even seem to know its already a state run monopoly, Marxist style and only when it actually teaches Marxist principles does anyone get upset.
Its pretty silly to impose a market system on roads because a competitive market cannot be easily created since there is one best road. Most people seem to understand this natural advantage will not allow a market system for roads. Why they are blind to it with well situated lands and minerals is quite curious to me. When its a monopoly by nature, only then should it be owned by the state.
What is the justification not to have a market system applied to schools? Got me. So its really nothing but a state run monopoly that does not believe in market system which can fall under mechantalism, socialism , Marxism, whatever.
How a society ought to run:
natural resources should be state owned.
capital and labor ( any arrangement , planning, tools or product of human labor) is developed in a private market system. Patents can be applied so long as they are innovations and not monopolistic or trivial. Software patents are a joke. Yet patents and copyrights are state sanctioned monopolies. Do people know this? Do they realize how little it differs from South Seas company or East Indies company? Do they understand the laws need to be very carefully watched because of this?
If you believe natural resources should be privately owned then you are a feudalist. If you believe that schools, which are created by human labor, should be state run then you are already a socialist and a Marxist.
I happen to be a capitalist that prefers market systems(which are created by the state). "The invisible hand" coined by Quesnay is not what most people think it is. Markets are established by governments. Otherwise I could just have some goons beat up and extort my competition. Laws prevent this. Laws create market systems and state run monopolies alike.
Their opinions are irrelevant in a classroom. Politics, religion and moral issues do not belong in a public classroom..... period.
Learning about them sure does. And Communism, being a major philosophy of modern history, of huge historical importance (Cold War, for instance) is relevant in a history or economics class.
In my school studies of WWII, learning about Nazism included seeing the posters deriding Jews and watching "Triumph of the Will", yet no one would have entertained the thought that the teacher was indoctrinating us in Nazism or anti-Semetism.
Bombarding?! Is there even one incident where she said anything?
Yes bombarding, when you have s group of people that clearly has well defined political side like teachers that bias will inevitably skew what they are teaching kids. If a vast majority of teachers had conservative values the liberals would be losing their minds and rightfully so.
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Frankly, I think most teachers are more intelligent than most parents, so by and large teachers' influence on kids is positive compared to the parents' influence.
Irrelevant where politics are concerned, they do not belong inside a public classrom. Period. There is nothing to discuss about this, it's not a teachers job to bring their own political views into a classroom whether it's liberal or conservative.
"This curious flyer was handed out to students studying the history of the Cold War at Roosevelt High School in Des Moines, Iowa."
"The CAPITALISM side of the flyer shows workers in tattered clothing, chained to a machine that delivers all of the money produced to a cigar-smoking man who is also much better dressed."
"Over on the COMMUNISM side, there is no boss and the smiling workers are better dressed, don’t have chains on their legs and the money goes back to them."
They couldn't be trying to persuade the kids that Communism was better than Capitalism, could they? Public schools wouldn't try and use children to promote a political agenda now would they?
Some wingnuts search long and hard to find some minor point to justify their irrational anger. And even then, they get it wrong.
From your own link:
A talk show on WHO Radio has unfortunately misled listeners about a class lesson about the Cold War. The radio show posted, on its web site, only a selectively edited part of a class handout – entitled “The two sides of the Cold War” – in order to give a false impression that students were being taught to support communism. In light of the misrepresentation caused by this talk show, we have posted the handout and assignments here on our web site so that people can see the complete document for themselves. Furthermore, the class, 20th Century History, was studying the Cold War and propaganda, looking at some of the arguments both sides made about why their system was best on a range of topics, including their economies. The handout simply highlights the differences between capitalism and communism, and some of the arguments made during the period of the Cold War. It is unfortunate that a talk show host decided to mislead his listeners in order to generate false criticism of our schools and our teachers.
When you click on the link that shows the entire handout it makes it clearer IMO. They have multiple pages going over the selling point of both.
That doesn't change the fact the image on the very first page has workers on the capitalist side with a ball chained to their leg and their clothes in tatters. THAT is what is going to stick inside a young mind more than any words they read.
Learning about them sure does. And Communism, being a major philosophy of modern history, of huge historical importance (Cold War, for instance) is relevant in a history or economics class.
Learning yes but a teacher needs to be neutral and provide opposing points of view without injecting their own political beliefs into what they are teaching.
That is the schools response, you would expect anything different?
You don't see the issue with cartoon? This is politically neutral or even accurate?
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