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Old 02-08-2012, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Somewhere Out West
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Here's a little history on the battle in California.

Twice the voters had banned gay marriage, in 2000 and 2008, in which the supreme court of CA affirmed the voters in 2008.

Then the radical gays/leftists took the issue to the federal court.

RealClearPolitics - Shaky Grounds for Prop. 8 Ruling
And your point is? If you had of taken a vote in Mississippi, Arkansas, Alabama etc. on whether to extend the right for blacks to marry whites, it would have died at the ballot box.

Civil rights should NEVER be something that is voted upon.
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Gays usurping "marriage" is not a civil right. In CA the gays have all the benefits bestowed on married couples through civil unions.
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:58 AM
 
Location: North America
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9th circuit court is the most liberal in the nation.

It's going to the supreme court. Period.

They still cannot begin reissuing marriage licenses to same sex couples in California.
Yes and given anthony kennedy prior verdicts on this issue it will have the same result. You are assuming the supreme court will even decide to hear the issue as well, in which they might not.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:00 AM
 
Location: North America
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Nice try. But in fact, it's a sign of my contempt for what that particular court has done with that trust: Abusing it, violating it and the Constitution it's based on, and otherwise acting like they are a group of appointed czars whose job it is to evade the Constitution rather than uphold and obey it.


Not any more, it doesn't. In nine western states, at least.

Until the next appeal.

As always, they will get the government they deserve.
I see, so basically judges should always uphold what the people want, and never strike it down you are saying? If thats the case, then what is the point of having a judiciary to appeal too in the first place ?
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:04 AM
 
Location: North America
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Gays usurping "marriage" is not a civil right. In CA the gays have all the benefits bestowed on married couples through civil unions.
Denying any human being an equal status is usurping a 'civil right'.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:08 AM
 
Location: North America
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Per capita?



Most overturned court in the country. FACT.

And the main judge in the ruling? The same...he's a radical leftist that is routinely on the receiving end of a SCOTUS smackdown.
It also hears more cases than any other circuit court, and has more cases reach the supreme court. FACT. So you know chances are it's going to be reversed more often due to mathematics .
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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Originally Posted by sanrene View Post
Here's a little history on the battle in California.

Twice the voters had banned gay marriage, in 2000 and 2008, in which the supreme court of CA affirmed the voters in 2008.

Then the radical gays/leftists took the issue to the federal court.

RealClearPolitics - Shaky Grounds for Prop. 8 Ruling
As it should be. I know conservatives don't understand that the tyranny of the majority is wrong...I wouldn't expect them to.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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Gays usurping "marriage" is not a civil right. In CA the gays have all the benefits bestowed on married couples through civil unions.
No, not all the benefits...just the benefits at the state level.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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I can't stand the gays and the supporters using interracial marriages as a crux for their arguments. Interracial marriage was never banned on the federal level and a minority of states did so.

The difference between the interracial ban and the illegality of gay marriage is that Blacks and others could not enter into the institution of marriage with the partners of their choice.

Gays seek to redefine marriage big difference.
Surprisingly, I agree with you 100%, Ed. When gay people pull out the "black card" to help prove their position, I find it distasteful.

Honestly, it gives off a "Black people, who were relegated to the status of second-class citizens, get to do this...so surely we (white) gays should get to do it too" vibe. Nevermind that it's pointed out that the issue was RACE and NOT a redefinition of marriage (between a man and a woman).

Again, extremely distasteful and it just proves that they have no independent leg to stand on.

Love who you want, but don't discover this phony new-found kinship with black people when it suits your agenda.

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Old 02-08-2012, 07:14 AM
 
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Denying any human being an equal status is usurping a 'civil right'.
ssm isn't a 'civil right' until a court or a vote says it is.
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