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Old 02-07-2012, 06:05 PM
 
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I am only asking where we draw the line of letting religions dictate power over american citizens.
Why don't you start by stating were you think we should draw that line.
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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If you're muslim or morman, yes.
The mainstream Mormon church does not believe in polygamy, though there may be a few practitioners.
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Why don't you start by stating were you think we should draw that line.
The line is drawn when any religion imposes on the liberties of American citizens, such as the right to practice birth control.
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I am only asking where we draw the line of letting religions dictate power over american citizens.
Well, you worded it badly, and your example in the OP was terrible.
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:21 PM
 
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The line is drawn when any religion imposes on the liberties of American citizens, such as the right to practice birth control.
Reading comprehension is critical so pay a little closer attention, ready?

Being provided birth control by your insurance company is not a RIGHT!!!

Step 1 Find a job that provides it to you

Step 2 Buy it your own damn self

Step 3 Get an education on what rights are guaranteed by the Constitution.
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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The mainstream Mormon church does not believe in polygamy, though there may be a few practitioners.
Only after it was outlawed.

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In 1862, the United States Congress passed the Morrill Act, which prohibited plural marriage in the territories (including Utah) and dis-incorporated the church.[2] In spite of the law, the Mormons continued the practice of polygamy, believing that it was protected by the First Amendment. In 1879, in Reynolds v. United States,[3] the Supreme Court of the United States upheld the Morrill Act, stating: "Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious belief and opinion, they may with practices."[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_polygamy

BTW, we can learn from the 1879 Supreme Court ruling.
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The line is drawn when any religion imposes on the liberties of American citizens, such as the right to practice birth control.
Your approach to this is 180 degrees out of phase.

Asking the church to do something AGAINST their religion is the exact opposite from asking them not to do something that is against the law.

When you demand a Catholic, Orthodox Jew, Mormon or Muslim give out abortion pills, this is murder to them, and the highest sin before God. Asking a Mormon NOT to marry more then one wife is not a sin. It's not a sin to only have one wife, but it is a sin to kill a baby. Do you see the difference?

Besides, no one is imposing on the liberties of American citizens, no one is preventing an employee at a Catholic church from going to the local drug store to get birth control pills.

If i want to get a tattoo, and my employer's health insurance wont pay for it, it's not violating my liberties, because who says they have to give me free tattoos, much less free condoms and abortion pills? Oh yeah, 0bama the Harvard Law, Constitutional professor says mandating a company give away free condoms to employees is a protected Constitutional right.
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Reading comprehension is critical so pay a little closer attention, ready?

Being provided birth control by your insurance company is not a RIGHT!!!

Step 1 Find a job that provides it to you

Step 2 Buy it your own damn self

Step 3 Get an education on what rights are guaranteed by the Constitution.
Step 4 read post #46
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Your approach to this is 180 degrees out of phase.

Asking the church to do something AGAINST their religion is the exact opposite from asking them not to do something that is against the law.

When you demand a Catholic, Orthodox Jew, Mormon or Muslim give out abortion pills, this is murder to them, and the highest sin before God. Asking a Mormon NOT to marry more then one wife is not a sin. It's not a sin to only have one wife, but it is a sin to kill a baby. Do you see the difference?
The position of the Catholic church is to let women die rather than terminating a pregnancy that would save her life. This should not be allowed.
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:27 PM
 
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Step 4 read post #46
That has nothing to do with you insistence on birth control provided by insurance companies as a right.
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