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Old 02-08-2012, 09:36 AM
 
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Heilemann: Obama At "Top Of List Of People" Who Messed Up Money & Politics | RealClearPolitics

This is SO true. Remember, in 2008 he PROMISED he would abide by campaign finance limits and then threw it all out the window when $750 million got in the way.

Another random act of journalism by the obama media.
So Obama is now a threat to democracy too.
"It could be the oil industry, it could be the insurance industry, it could even be foreign-owned corporations. You don't know because they don't have to disclose. Now that's not just a threat to Democrats, that's a threat to our democracy."

-- President Obama railing against outside political groups at a campaign rally in Philadelphia on Oct. 10, 2010
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Old 02-09-2012, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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So Obama is now a threat to democracy too.
"It could be the oil industry, it could be the insurance industry, it could even be foreign-owned corporations. You don't know because they don't have to disclose. Now that's not just a threat to Democrats, that's a threat to our democracy."

-- President Obama railing against outside political groups at a campaign rally in Philadelphia on Oct. 10, 2010
We knew his spiel was all a bunch of BS anyway. HIS SuperPac, started last year by Burton, was having a bit of trouble getting those big donors this time around.

His spiel about not taking money from lobbyists is a bunch of BS as well.
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Old 02-09-2012, 06:00 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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We knew his spiel was all a bunch of BS anyway. HIS SuperPac, started last year by Burton, was having a bit of trouble getting those big donors this time around.

His spiel about not taking money from lobbyists is a bunch of BS as well.


Your right, he thows so much BS, he sure would be a great actor, would he not.
And yes things were pefect for a lot of people i personlly knew, until Obam took office and one by one, by one, by one, by one, they each lost a job they had forever, now gone.

No he is not solely responsible, but partly responsible yes.
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Old 02-10-2012, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Your right, he thows so much BS, he sure would be a great actor, would he not.
And yes things were pefect for a lot of people i personlly knew, until Obam took office and one by one, by one, by one, by one, they each lost a job they had forever, now gone.

No he is not solely responsible, but partly responsible yes.
First, your post has nothing to do with the topic, which is about Obama telling Democrats that they should use super pacs just like the Republicans.

Second, you failed the logical inference test:
A: your friends had jobs for 30 years.
B: Obama was elected.
C: Your friends lost their jobs;
therefore, Obama was the reason your friends lost their jobs.

The fact that the economy was shedding millions of jobs for an entire year before Obama was President seems not to resonate with you.

Third, on the thread topic, sanrene started this thread to show that Obama, who voiced opposition to super pac money, is now saying to Democrats that it's ok to donate to super pacs and therefore that's hypocrisy.

You see, sanrene is a partisan and wants the GOP to have an advantage. Thus, it would be just dandy, for Republicans, for the GOP to have hundreds of millions of dollars in unchallenged super pac money being used against Obama.

The thing is, Obama isn't stupid enough to bring only a knife to the GOP gunfight. If the GOP is going to use flamethrowers, he knows he needs flamethrowers too.
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