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Old 02-10-2012, 04:37 AM
 
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Any state can tell the feds that their money is not needed. If the states do not take the money, the states can teach what they please. Don't blame the feds.

Just say no.

States decide what to teach, how it will be taught and who will do the teaching. Any good principal can get rid of a bad teacher.
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Old 02-10-2012, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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King Hussein Obama has spoken. Who needs Congress anyway when the King can bypass them at will to forward his own agenda? All hail the Mighty King!
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Old 02-10-2012, 05:10 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Thumbs down Today is a SAD day for American children. Very sad

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With the teacher unions finally getting their way and killing off the No Children Left Behind program, they have effectively ended any pretense at reform. This comes on top of them killing off the low income choice programs in DC and Wisconsin and trying with various degrees of success to kill off public charter schools. This is why we as Americans will LOSE. We all lose when the teacher unions win.
Hogwash!

NCLB is a terribly flawed and unrealistic piece of legislation. Its primary result is dumbing down education to emphasize getting the bottom students to pass easy tests and calling it "progress".

The shot at unions further confirms lack of comprehension on the subject.
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Old 02-10-2012, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The program may have had good intentions, but it just didn't work in practice, and hence was a failure. Billions of dollars washed down the drain. It is amazing some "conservatives" here still defend the waste/government intrusion even after the program has been proven to be a failure. At the same time they criticize Obama for cutting the waste. It's partisanship and hypocrisy at its worst.

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Old 02-10-2012, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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>A horrible legislation is finally repealed
>Sad day for american children

No, maybe we can finally put this idiotic standardized testing bull behind us.

You can't measure a student by how well they test.
If you do not measure student performance by testing them , then how do you know what they have learned?
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Old 02-10-2012, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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http://www.libertyunbound.com/sites/...ugust_2006.pdf

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2) The "No Child Left Behind Act" of 2001, a 670-page federal
assault on local control over public schools. This pet project of
the Republican president, made into law with the help of Sen.
Ted Kennedy and other Democrats, is the direct descendant
(technically a re-authorization) of Lyndon Johnson's Elementary
and Secondary Education Act of 1965, a linchpin of the
Great Society legislative program
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Old 02-10-2012, 06:21 AM
 
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I do think there should be at least a NATIONAL STANDARD...if the staes wish to SURPASS the standard fine, but at least meet a national minimum
If the states are taking federal money, then they should be able to comply with the terms of the payout, in this case, meet the standards set
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Old 02-10-2012, 06:26 AM
 
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Yeah, ted kennedy has the sole power to override the house, senate, and president to pass whatever he wants

It was a disastrous bill that was basically an iron fisted "big government" overwatch on the education system. I thought the GOP was against more government, they should be applauding this
So says the poster who doesnt stop demanding the government provide things like healthcare, welfare, food stamps, etc. Spare me the big left wing make believe outrage against big government.
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Old 02-10-2012, 06:26 AM
 
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Get rid of the unions and you'll. Get. Rid of the education problem in this country!
Wow, I'll push all in with everything I own and everything I ever WILL own that you are wrong here...

Overpaid teachers..... Yeah, that's the problem.
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Old 02-10-2012, 06:27 AM
 
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If the states are taking federal money, then they should be able to comply with the terms of the payout, in this case, meet the standards set
And if Catholic Hospitals take federal money, they should shut up and comply with a federal mandate....

Glad you all are starting to see how it works over on that side of the aisle.
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