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Old 02-09-2012, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Saudi faces death calls after prophet tweets
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A young Saudi journalist is facing calls for his execution after tweeting remarks about the Prophet Mohammed, and the kingdom's top clerics are demanding his trial after denouncing him as an "apostate."
On the occasion of the Muslim prophet's birthday last week, 23-year-old Hamza Kashgari tweeted: "I have loved things about you and I have hated things about you and there is a lot I don't understand about you."
"I will not pray for you," he added.

The controversial tweet sparked a frenzy of responses -- some 30,000, according to an online service that tracks tweets in the Arab world.
In one response, Abdullah, a lawyer, said that since Kashgari was "an adult... we should accept nothing but implementing the ruling according to Islamic law" or sharia.
Insulting the prophet is considered blasphemous in Islam, and is a crime punishable by death.
Kashgari quickly apologised for his remarks, but the calls for his execution only multiplied.
A Facebook page entitled "The Saudi people demand Hamza Kashgari's execution" already has nearly 10,000 members.
A recent posting thanks the page's members for their support and calls for more recruits.
"Our page has almost 10,000 members... but we need you to work harder. The prophet deserves more respect," said one post. A committee of top clerics in charge of issuing religious edicts in the kingdom issued a statement calling Kashgari "an apostate" and an "infidel," and demanded that he be tried in an Islamic court.
OK folks...this is just nuts. Thousands of people are calling for this man's death, simply for expressing an opinion, questioning his own faith.

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Old 02-09-2012, 02:22 PM
 
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What does the century have to do with anything? The Holocaust sure as hell wasn't something that you'd think could've happened in the 20th Century in a country as enlightened and educated as Germany, but it did.

Islam is compatible with the person that wants to practice it. It's that simple.
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:24 PM
 
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No religion is compatible with a progress. It's a big myth created in ancient times and still used by modern day witch doctors to exploit masses of people.

The highest standard of living, the places where sick and elderly are best treated are found in the most secular nations.
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:27 PM
 
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No religion is compatible with a progress. It's a big myth created in ancient times and still used by modern day witch doctors to exploit masses of people.

The highest standard of living, the places where sick and elderly are best treated are found in the most secular nations.
Right. I mean, it's compatible with people if they want to practice it. But no faith is compatible with progress on any level.

You've got people believing in pie-in-the-sky theories and turning over 10% of their incomes to pastors driving Bentley's and flying in private jets.

If that's progress...leave me out.
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:30 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Saudi faces death calls after prophet tweets


OK folks...this is just nuts. Thousands of people are calling for this man's death, simply for expressing an opinion, questioning his own faith.

the prophet mohammed is just that, a prophet, nothing more and nothing less. just an ordinary man that was a prophet.
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Islam believes in the same holy books that Christianity does.

The only difference between Islam, and Christianity is that they don't believe Jesus was a God, but a prophet.

Religion is only as useful as the people that are using it. The fact that the middle east is, in general, a very poor community has more to do with terrorism and some of their practices then their religion is.

Religion is just the excuse used for violence.

Muslims are a 18th century people thrust into the 21st century. It will take time for them to modernize. Its just that simple. Christians had to make the same adjustment.
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:31 PM
 
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the prophet mohammed is just that, a prophet, nothing more and nothing less. just an ordinary man that was a prophet.
And that makes him different from Jesus, how?
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:33 PM
 
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And that makes him different from Jesus, how?

god said jesus was his son. as told in the bible.
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:36 PM
 
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god said jesus was his son. as told in the bible.
LOL....yea, ok. Lotta Mexicans i know have sons named Jesus too.
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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god said jesus was his son. as told in the bible.
God never said that. Jesus claimed that he was a son of God, not the son of God. He also said that we were all Gods children.

The only place in the bible where Jesus supposedly said he was the Messiah was when he was before the Jewish court before his execution.

Yeah, thats an impartial jury that never lied about what they were told.

But, if the historical record holds true as to what Jesus did when he entered Jerusalem on a donkey before passover, he was announcing that he was the Messiah with his actions.

None of this is in the historical record mind you. Very few actual mentioning of a prophet named Jesus the Nazzarean from the actual time of his supposed existence.

Those don't disprove anything, but it is reality. Most of the holy sites and things that we take as gospel were written and found long after his death.
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