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Actually it would, because the cost to supply the US would be far lower than had we needed to import it.
The game with the Canadian pipelines has been to get costs lower for export, meaning, pipelines. China is a partner up there as well, in pipelines. Canada wanted to get as much oil to the coast as possible, as it's cheaper to do, and commands a premium over what they get right now. The tar sands oil is more expensive to refine, and we'd end up setting up refineries to export their oil.
We have cheap gas in the Midwest now, because of the glut of Canadian oil.
You are wrong about Bush . He tried to act on getting the housing act in order but was rejected by the dems with Maxine Waters and Barney Frank leading the way to bad mortgages. They said that fannie and freddie are fine. Bush knew better and three times tried to get the dems to act of legislation to stop the mess.
Obama rejected it flat out on the Keystone pipeline.
Fact is Obama spends and has the fed print more . Obama is the most wasteful president I have ever seen throwing millions away of green energy projects that he is too inept to know will fail.
Bush was not perfect, but he did move to find solutions . Obama is a run away train with his agenda pushing us into debt that will never be paid. I know it and so should you. China is not stupid.. they are losing money on the debt as the dollar value shrinks with trillions more money being printed.
In time China won't want our debt. And we will have to default on our programs , entitlements and services. Just wait till you see the riots. It is not going to be a good time to be an American.
First off, I agree the Keystone pipeline will be good, just not for the reasons you think it will be good. Second, Bush was in nirvana, having 100% party control of the entire government for 6 years. Barney had little power, Maxine Water even less. (thank god)
Bush found no solutions, he simply ran with the flow that gave the appearance of a good economy, until it crashed. Had he been even remotely a fiscal conservative, it might have better prepared the country for his massive spending largess.
Stop reading the headlines. Understand the concepts. Gas was very high in 2008, record highs. There was a reason for that. There is a reason that food prices are high now, and a reason that milk is so costly. Barney Frank is not the reason.
It took 17 pages to get to the point that these plants were no longer necessary and generated increased levels of mercury and other toxins, sounds like a win - win.
It took 17 pages to get to the point that these plants were no longer necessary and generated increased levels of mercury and other toxins, sounds like a win - win.
Dude, you gotta change your settings, this is page 5 for me.
Please post the link to the bill from Congress shutting down these coal plants. Until you can, you prove YOU failed school.
WRONG.. There has been no Congressional mandate to to shut down more power plants.
ARRRGGGGHHHH!
I'm growing weary of teaching you basic civics, but...one more time.
Congress has established environmental targets relating to all kinds of things, from mercury to CO2 to whatever, in several different permutations of the original clean air act of the 1960's. The EPA was created, BY CONGRESS, for the express purpose of regulating those clean air requirements. That department has the authority of The People behind it, via their elected representatives on The Hill, and the Constitutional mandate to enforce the will of Congress.
Congress has never been willing to tell a federal agency or department HOW to do its job; that would be micro-managing. So, they leave it up to the department to develop rules and regulations to enforce their will.
The EPA, in this case, has issued new regulations to do exactly what Congress told them to do and the power companies have decided ON THEIR OWN that it's cheaper to close those plants than to bring them into compliance with the new rules.
Is that clear now? If not, you're on your own, brother.
No, I will not. The public laws are available for anyone to see and if I found, and posted, the original clean air act, plus all it's changes and amendments over the years, I'd be guilty of overwhelming this site's bandwidth limits.
First off, I agree the Keystone pipeline will be good, just not for the reasons you think it will be good. Second, Bush was in nirvana, having 100% party control of the entire government for 6 years. Barney had little power, Maxine Water even less. (thank god)
Bush found no solutions, he simply ran with the flow that gave the appearance of a good economy, until it crashed. Had he been even remotely a fiscal conservative, it might have better prepared the country for his massive spending largess.
Stop reading the headlines. Understand the concepts. Gas was very high in 2008, record highs. There was a reason for that. There is a reason that food prices are high now, and a reason that milk is so costly. Barney Frank is not the reason.
Oh yeah, Bush controlled the whole mess with the house and senate with no control.. are you saying that!! Do you know the democrats have power too... or are you making false statements?
Oh Barney Frank is the reason of the lending of money on bad loan practices and he propped up the lending and it continued for years.
I'm growing weary of teaching you basic civics, but...one more time.
Congress has established environmental targets relating to all kinds of things, from mercury to CO2 to whatever, in several different permutations of the original clean air act of the 1960's. The EPA was created, BY CONGRESS, for the express purpose of regulating those clean air requirements. That department has the authority of The People behind it, via their elected representatives on The Hill, and the Constitutional mandate to enforce the will of Congress.
Congress has never been willing to tell a federal agency or department HOW to do its job; that would be micro-managing. So, they leave it up to the department to develop rules and regulations to enforce their will.
ARRRRGGGGGHHHHH, (See, I can do it also)
The Department has the authority of the people behind it? What kind of bs is that? Really, thats as low as you go?
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Originally Posted by stillkit
The EPA, in this case, has issued new regulations to do exactly what Congress told them to do and the power companies have decided ON THEIR OWN that it's cheaper to close those plants than to bring them into compliance with the new rules.
Is that clear now? If not, you're on your own, brother.
You mean you are now saing what I said a long time ago, that the EPA HAS ISSUED NEW REGULATIONS, NOT CONGRESS? The why the hell are you arguing with me then?
The fact that they decided on their own, that they cant afford to comply with the EPA standards, doesnt mean that the EPA didnt set the dam standards
Not building a pipeline in the wrong place at the wrong time for the wrong reasons is a win. Blaming the EPA for shutting down a couple of old dirty worn out coal burners is typical. Shutting down these relics is a win for the consumers and anyone that happens to be breathing air in the vicinity.
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