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Old 02-11-2012, 01:44 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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According to the article, "the bill would slash Florida's minimum wage for tipped workers - now $4.65 an hour - to the federal tipped minimum of $2.13 for companies that agree to guarantee that with wages and tips their employees will make at least $9.98 an hour."


WHAT??????? That's the federal minimum? Guess the OP missed that part when he read the article.

As an aside I think the proposal is stupid.
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Old 02-11-2012, 01:44 PM
 
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And of course it's the liberals that would want taxpayers to subsidize these cheap workers with all kinds of food stamps, Section 8, Medicaid and CHIP so that they can eagerly accept these low paying jobs.
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Old 02-11-2012, 01:56 PM
 
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Well wait and see how many quit to find better paying jobs.
Let the workers speak volumes by quitting.
Yeah, that worked so well back when companies required their employees to work 10 hours a day, 7 days a week - didn't it?

Some of you won't be happy until the minimum wage is zero, and employees have zero benefits. You want social security and medicare eliminated, and all worker safety laws struck down. You want a dog-eat-dog world that is cold, isolated, and deeply divided, where the majority of Americans can barely make ends meet. Oh, the good old days!
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Old 02-11-2012, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Houston
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My niece is a bartender, gets $30 a shift plus tips, her tips average $120 a night. She makes $18.75 an hour. Much of it unseen by Uncle Sam.

The fact is employees who don't make a decent wage on salary plus tips will quit.
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Old 02-11-2012, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Yeah, that worked so well back when companies required their employees to work 10 hours a day, 7 days a week - didn't it?

Some of you won't be happy until the minimum wage is zero, and employees have zero benefits. You want social security and medicare eliminated, and all worker safety laws struck down. You want a dog-eat-dog world that is cold, isolated, and deeply divided, where the majority of Americans can barely make ends meet. Oh, the good old days!
Why does anyone make more than minimum wage?
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Old 02-11-2012, 02:08 PM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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Some of you won't be happy until the minimum wage is zero, and employees have zero benefits. You want social security and medicare eliminated, and all worker safety laws struck down. You want a dog-eat-dog world that is cold, isolated, and deeply divided.
There really shouldn't be a minimum wage. Employers should be able to pay their workers what their jobs are worth. A minimum wage mostly benefits high school & college age kids who are flipping burgers & waiting tables for side money. Very few people are actually making a living doing such menial jobs.

Think about the larger firms as well who are held hostage under the minimum wage laws. They have to pay janitors and other such positions a certain minimum wage. The ones who really keep the business going, such as the bankers, the accountants, the computer programmers, the manufacturers, etc., do not benefit from minimum wage laws ... and would probably end up earning even better wages if companies didn't have to meet so many federal laws & regulations such as manadatory pay & benefits.
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Old 02-11-2012, 02:19 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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This didn't originate with politicians but the restaurant association.
Business is initiating this.
And how many $$$ is that association contributing to politicians?
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Old 02-11-2012, 02:21 PM
 
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Why does anyone make more than minimum wage?
I don't understand. You're saying everybody should make minimum wage, regardless of their job?
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Old 02-11-2012, 02:38 PM
 
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There really shouldn't be a minimum wage. Employers should be able to pay their workers what their jobs are worth.
This gets proposed now and then, but ask yourself this - is there a single "decent" or developed nation where those type of bottomless wage laws apply? Is that something that is compatible with a first-world society?

Instead, when you look at countries with no effective minimum wage, they tend to be places like Haiti that only the most insane sadists would want America to emulate.

Show me a nation with no minimum wages for anyone that has succeeded in maintaining its first-world status, and you'd have a better case.
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Old 02-11-2012, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I don't understand. You're saying everybody should make minimum wage, regardless of their job?
No, what I am saying is the vast majority of working adults make more than minimum wage without assist from government. Most, bartenders, after tips, make more than the minimum wage already.
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