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I started this thread to discuss the violent and unjust tactics used at many of the peaceful protest associated with the Occupy Movement.
Public Opinion still seems to be divided over the movement, but I want to discuss the instances of police brutality and unwarranted arrest. In some instances, the police have barred the media from videotaping what is going on during protest. Journalist, photographers, and film crew have been arrested and beaten by police. Peaceful protesters have been beaten, pepper sprayed, and shot with bean bag guns and rubber bullets. There are hundreds of videos across the internet displaying these instances in their entirety yet there is no public outrage or even discussion of the issue.
I'm wanting to raise awareness about what is being done to our fellow Americans and also wanting to start a dialogue about why these protesters are such a threat to those in power. I do not want to demonize the police departments as the majority of officers acted in accordance, and in some cases, protesters were the ones who initiated the incidents.
That is the hope of many of the communists and anarchists behind the OWS movement. The dearly want to cause a reaction by the police, and then dress it up as the new 60s styled revolution against the establishment.
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Agreed. However, I feel that it is the media and politicians duty to address those issues and they both have failed at that miserably.
If the media isn't reporting. And both political parties are ignoring the real issues, or not providing any real solutions, what other means is there to get heard other than protest or start a new political party?
You can't just all stand around with your thumb up your ass looking for a cohesive issue...you have to have it together before you protest,have a clear goal in mind that all of the participants are geared towards etc etc.
OWS had the right idea imho,they just allowed "whatever" to go on and the good intentions got washed away with the bad...seriously,how smart was it to try to take over a building they didn't own and then whine when they got beat down by the cops?
Moves like that lose the sympathy/good will of those that might be willing to agree with them.
Agreed. However, I feel that it is the media and politicians duty to address those issues and they both have failed at that miserably.
If the media isn't reporting. And both political parties are ignoring the real issues, or not providing any real solutions, what other means is there to get heard other than protest or start a new political party?
What you're ignoring is that while OWS may have started out as one thing, now it's just a bunch of thugs who've found an excuse to riot.
Forming a new political party has been done already and all of them together won't get even 5% of the vote.
People are pretty clueless as a whole and can't seem to recognize that they are the source of the problem. They gave the power to the government and the oligarchs and have displayed the same pattern of behavior since the beginning of history. There is no solution. Every now and again the house of cards crashes from it's own weight and forces a reboot.
I'm not one to quote old songs but "Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose." seems to fit nicely. People are not ready for any real change because they're still way too fat and happy. Sadly, things are going to have to get a lot more uncomfortable before anyone does jack.
Isn't it funny how the conservatives form rank and file to defend authority. Odd since Fox News, Limbaugh, Hannity, and every other conservative radio host has been against OWS from day one.
Don't you think at least one conservative would have a (gasp) differing opinion from the group?
Keep playing into the herd mentality, you guys have practically perfected it.
Brutal force i do not believe is necessary, any more then violence, and destroying public and private property, that is not yours, starting fights with those who do not agree with you, urinating in public, i can go on. Is a clear mature way to make a point, what exactly is your point. No better then the police, when they do that crap.
And there have also been police who have gotten hurt in the chaos also.
The way so many OWS members have acted, is in no way, a clear cut way to get a point across to those of us who do not understand. Oh i see, violence is the way to act, starting fights is a way to act, destroying property, in the worse way, is a way to act, urinating on public streets, is not the smartest thing to do. And some even more disgraceful things. Not a way to act, to get a strong clear message across.
When did throwing human excrement at law enforcement qualify as part of a "peaceful" protest? Is that what Van Jones, Francis Fox-Piven, and Bill Ayers are teaching these days?
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Isn't it funny how the conservatives form rank and file to defend authority. Odd since Fox News, Limbaugh, Hannity, and every other conservative radio host has been against OWS from day one.
Don't you think at least one conservative would have a (gasp) differing opinion from the group?
Keep playing into the herd mentality, you guys have practically perfected it.
Like getting a lefty to agree with the tea party since it was demonized by the liberal media. Herd mentality?
The cops WORK for a govt agency of some sort...there are no freelance cops...those are called "robbers"...so yes,the "govt" can control the cops
OWS can "discourage" the behaviour of the bad element they are allowing to run with them.
If they do control the cops, then we have a corrupt government, because we have corrupt cops. 2 years ago when I was starting my 1st business I was illegally pulled over at a toll booth. To make a long story short, I was illegally charged for a DUI after passing a field sobriety test and breathalyzer test. The cop falsified documents and even gave false blood alcohol results. The judge ended up catching the officer lying when he couldn't match up times in his reports with actual documents. I had phone records contradicting the entire story.
When I was finally proven guilty, I was told to not press charges because many of the police officers are connected. Connected with who?
There are going to be those that are out of line on both sides of the aisle. Those are the individuals we should be concerned about. We should make sure that they don't disrupt what should be a peaceful protest. There are corrupt and/or violent officers just like their are law breaking and/or violent citizens. Both deserve prosecution.
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